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So, Which Boring Leader And Civ Do We Pick?

Mardoc Wrote:I'd say there's 90% odds of Bismarck being around later, if we really want to try the Pyramids or Bust strategy...

Keep in mind that it's possible to make The Great Lighthouse worthwhile in this game. It is diplomacy and there are off shore islands - so even without open borders TGL would probably be worth it. That means even if there are 2 IND leaders there will be a possibility of one getting TGL while the other gets Pyramids
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Put me down for Pacal.
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Really guys? Darius on a Prince map? That's your ideal as the fourth leader chosen? I don't mean to come off as condescending or anything, but Darius shouldn't even be in the discussion...
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We're not picking Darius, we're picking Inca.

And IMO Org is undervalued for water maps at RB. It's like there's some kind of mental block that prevents people from remembering Org gives more than just half-priced Courthouses.

Besides, I'm thinking I'd like Mansa of Inca or Bismark of Inca just as well now. But that's the point: there's tons of leaders I could see us using with Inca for a good game. But passing up on Inca and then the rest of the civs are meh by comparison.
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Let's get Inca first then.
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Unless we fancy doing something a bit different from the standard fin cottage economy approach (Gandhi of Rome?) then yes I agree on Inca
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Yeah, I'll vote inca then Darius. Could do mansa too.

StM: it's not just prince, it's a small prince toroidal map with list of coast. Org will be useful.
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luddite Wrote:StM: it's not just prince, it's a small prince toroidal map with list of coast. Org will be useful.

I agree with StM. Org is better then usual yes, but it still sucks (claiming it's better than EXP, CRE or IND on this map is ridiculous). Cheap lighthouses will be useful, but not every city is coastal nor will be want to be working lots of coast early unless we have Colossus. Courthouses are only post CoL, and civic costs and factories are even later. Assuming Inca, my leader list would be:

Pacal
Bismarck
HC
(drop off)
Mansa
Elizabeth/Darius

For this pick I'd still rather take Pacal then Inca though.
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I vote for Inca.
More people have been to Berlin than I have.
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After Inca I'd vote for a leader:

Pacal
HC
Willem
Bismarck
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