July 15th, 2015, 05:02
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Any number of people are biased on any number of issues, especially on Joey (and, for that matter, BGN). That doesn't mean their arguments can't have merit, and to imply otherwise is rude. I don't see that post doing anything other than annoying Space further.
Edit: To clarify, I think both actions were/are questionable, but that there are distinctions between the two and arguments that could be made. (I don't think Xenu is making those arguments/presenting them well.) At the same time, I don't think it is the lurkers place to comment.
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GL caved, without asking what the lurkers thought, so this doesn't matter anymore.
My method would have been better by not pushing GL but I understand Q getting anxious. If OH wins by 1-turn I'll  but I don't think it will happen.
Gifting should be banned in future games because if gifting 1gpt is okay you cannot make a rule that bans 1000gpt.
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(July 15th, 2015, 05:02)Qgqqqqq Wrote: Any number of people are biased on any number of issues, especially on Joey (and, for that matter, BGN). That doesn't mean their arguments can't have merit, and to imply otherwise is rude. I don't see that post doing anything other than annoying Space further.
You simply don't get it.
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No, he simply rejects your opinion that my having an identical DNA sequence to BGN is relevant at all to the conversation.
The gifting issues are not the same. BGN gifted OH aluminum at a time when the space race between them was wide open, knowing it could allow OH to beat him in the race, but allowing the race to be fairly run by both, overcoming an absurdity of map resource distribution. The prospective GJ gift would have been under a circumstance where he would have been seeking to only help TBS finish the win. That turns out to have not been the case so I really don't know why we're still going on about this. I think at this point though your insistence that I'm somehow incapable of being unduly influenced by kin is what bothers me. And I now remember why I wanted so much to kill you in the one WW game I played with you. You're damn annoying to argue with, maybe you simply don't get me. :P
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(July 15th, 2015, 04:26)Rowain Wrote: It explains why space jumps joeys and others throat for helping TBS but is rather silent to BGN helping OH to win.
If ipecac accepts that space is plain simply biased That was rather obvious early on.
Quote: he can easier ignore his comments before this turns into something nasty.
I believe I have done sufficient to demonstrate the one-sideness of his critique of cheesy play, as well as the extremely cheesy play by BGN in denying thousands of hammers through coal to TBS while trying to create a 'fair race' only with OH and gifting him solely thousands of hammers. As such I am letting the disagreement with xenu rest in its current state.[/i]
July 15th, 2015, 09:54
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(July 15th, 2015, 09:23)spacetyrantxenu Wrote: No, he simply rejects your opinion that my having an identical DNA sequence to BGN is relevant at all to the conversation.
He can reject all he wants - doesn't change the truth of it. You do find it hard to measure your brother the same way you measure others. That is quite natural and usual. Trying to deny that is rather absurd.
(July 15th, 2015, 09:23)spacetyrantxenu Wrote: The gifting issues are not the same. BGN gifted OH aluminum at a time when the space race between them was wide open, knowing it could allow OH to beat him in the race, but allowing the race to be fairly run by both, overcoming an absurdity of map resource distribution. The prospective GJ gift would have been under a circumstance where he would have been seeking to only help TBS finish the win. That turns out to have not been the case so I really don't know why we're still going on about this.
At the time BGN did it one could agree with it. ut his actions since then have pushed OH further in the lead and his trying to stop/hinder TBS to win while doing nothing towards OH tilts it towards 'helping OH to win'. Or as he himself wrote: 'preferring to lose to OH than to TBS'.
There is not really anything wrong if you play that way. But the same holds true for GJ or krill or whoever does an allowed action to promote a TBS-victory.
The minor problem is with your (and others) biased reaction to helping player A vs helping player B (although it is understandable in your case).
BTW after GJ cancelling the money under the wrong presumption that TBS doesn't need the help. - I was seriously tempted to tell GJ that TBS does appreciate and maybe need the money but then contrary to some I have no interest to influence a game that late.
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(July 15th, 2015, 09:23)spacetyrantxenu Wrote: And I now remember why I wanted so much to kill you in the one WW game I played with you. You wanted to kill me because you were scum and I was in a fight with your scum-buddy sunrise and had declared a villager as clear villager and asked him to not be lynched.
In short you wanted to kill me because I was right.
July 15th, 2015, 11:16
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You can believe you're right, of course you are entitled to your own opinion.
No, I wanted to kill you because you were annoying. The fact that I was scum meant I wanted to kill everyone, obviously, and possibly at the time for the reason you state, I don't remember. But I do remember definitely wanting you out of the game so I wouldn't have to deal with arguing with you, because it was very annoying.
EDIT: BTW, FULL DISCLOSURE TIME BECAUSE I'M INCAPABLE OF BEING TRUSTED, GIVEN MY RELATIONSHIP TO A GAME PLAYER HERE: BGN is at my house now, just picked him up from the airport, so I'll be staying out of this thread for the next week until he's gone. Because I can't be trusted. And he might see my computer screen. Or something. Also, if someone else can play the lurker turns for a while that'd be great, because, you know, of course my bias would demand that I call him over to sit with me beside my computer while I log in to end the lurker turn. I'm afraid I just couldn't resist the temptation to give him all manner of assistance in winning the game now that he's here, but if you'll forgive my weakness, it's family and obviously inevitable and understandable!
EDIT2: SORRY DOUBLE EDIT! I'll stay out of all the player threads, too, because I might be letting him read from my login. Because I can't be trusted to refrain from maximum display of by BGN bias!!!!1one1!
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It's not that you're biased, it's just that you're genetically identical, basically clones, and so have the exact same outlook.
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So, um, how 'bout those Astros; think they' keep it up in the second half of the season?
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Dreylin, please try and post on topic.
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