[SPOILERS] FFH II PBEM I Lurker Discussion Thread- No Players Allowed!

[HelloGoodSir]

wether or not he would look it up makes no difference he still would take the free +3bpt and still would have gotten the final event. The only difference would be if he got the mage or the ranger.

It's +3bpt at the cost of a Happy (at least in the version I read), and well, he only gets 4 cities, so he needs his Happies.

[fire&ice]

Event 2
unique, random
Requires that you picked option 2 in Circle of Gaelan Event 1.
"Citizens in <city> are worried about strange occurences. Livestock are dying without cause, and some of the town wells have dried up. They suspect the mage guild is carrying out dangerous experiments!"


Destroy the mage guild (revokes the +2 research from the previous event. Does NOT destroy the guild)
This is the price of progress (Mage guild yields +1 research)
Notes: These two options need lawful good and chaotic evil shifts respectively

copied right from the link that was provided
says nothing about happy

[Azoth]

By the looks of it, PB doesn't even need the roads. Hasted Mobility Hemah has 3 movement points. That's enough to reach the stack (first move to Sugar, second move to Red X, third move SW to plains tile) and cast Snowfall twice. After that, it's all mopup: units with just 20% of their hit points left can't stand up to anything. With 4 movement points, Hasted Centaur Archers from Reorte, Riedquat, and Zaonce can all hit the stack.
Of course, PB will still look for every tactical advantage available to him. His 6 workers (4 in Riedquat, 2 in Zaonce) can road tiles to let wounded Centaur Archers retreat. Rust would be useful; Dispel Magic less so (Bob's stack doesn't have any combat buffs.) Destroy Undead will kill any specters that were hit with Snowfall so even taking out the two defending the stack will let PB kill two more vampires with his centaurs.
I agree, it should be fun to watch.

Edit: That event description for the Circle of Gaelan chain comes from the Fall Further wiki. Fall Further introduces a second Lawful-Chaotic alignment axis which is required for those options. In vanilla FFH, "This is the price of progress" adds +1 Research and a permanent +1 Unhappy.

[Darkmantle]

I would expect him to make some roads just so that he could have greater flexibility for retreating and movement. Those roads would also be in neutral territory so he could easily pillage them on the way out.

[HelloGoodSir]

copied right from the link that was provided
says nothing about happy

Ah. I got it from here:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=347953

[darrelljs]

By the looks of it, PB doesn't even need the roads. Hasted Mobility Hemah has 3 movement points. That's enough to reach the stack (first move to Sugar, second move to Red X, third move SW to plains tile) and cast Snowfall twice.

So using this as my reference:

And noting Bob's stack is on the goblin fort, one option is as you say. A second option is to move Hemah like this:



Or possibly S of Zaonce, there isn't enough info for me to pick. That's 8 moves total. The unfortunate thing is that while the Workers in Riedquat are able reach those tiles, they will have no movement left to road (even with Haste). That might not be a big deal as all CAs can attack and Hemah can still cast Snowfall.

A third option is to move Hemah like this:



He has four Workers and Engineering, so two can Road blue dot without Haste. Then the other two reach the destination Jungle tile, are Hasted, and then build the road. Hemah is exactly 6 tiles away and doesn't need to be hasted to reach and cast snowfall. This is the option I would choose since a) you are on a road at the start of next turn, and b) you get the jungle defensive bonus for any counter attack. Also, if he has two body Adepts, he can even hit the stack and retreat.

Darrell

[Amelia]

Lol, bob just confessed all his vampires just died. Ouch, that's got to hurt...

[Darkmantle]

Awesome!

Bob is going to summon Hyborem! Pity he couldn't do it before his vampires were killed so he would get all those free units. He should probably make sure to draft out as many vampires as possible before he switches to he can make use of their deaths at AI hands.

[Twinkletoes89]

Poor bob - that's got to be one of the most painful smackdowns in RB games - but in the end he was just too overconfident.

In the end I just hope he comes around to read the genius of bob's thread and simply acknowledge that he was outplayed by a very good player

[Amelia]

Well, i guess this PBEM is ending soon, from the looks of it.