Soul of a Nameless Civ Player

[retep]

Tech path: Mining - BW - Agriculture - TW - Potery

Worker moves are in the air part turn24, they mostly depend where we need to road for the second city.

Short version:
T0-5= Build worboat
T5-9= Grow size 2
T10-16= Start - finish worker1
T16-21= Start - finish worker2
T22= Start setler
T23= Revolt Slavery
T24-26= Grow size 3
T27-31= Finish setler
T32= Start-Finish Granary

[retep]

Tech path: Mining - BW - Agriculture - TW - Potery

Long version:

[retep]

Tech path: Mining - BW - Agriculture - TW - Potery

Long version:

TURN	FOOD	HAMMER	BUILD	TILES	WORKER1	WORKER2
10		0+9/60H	WORKER1	FISHIVORY
11		9+9/60H	WORKER1	FISHIVORY
12		18+9/60H	WORKER1	FISHIVORY
13		27+9/60	WORKER1	FISHIVORY
14		36+9/60H	WORKER1	FISHIVORY
15		45+9/60H	WORKER1	FISHIVORY
16		54+9/60H3H OVERFLOW	WORKER1	FISHIVORY
17		3+9/60H	WORKER2	FISHIVORY	MOVE 1SW
18		12+9/60H	WORKER2	FISHIVORY	CHOP 1
19		21+9/60H	WORKER2	FISHIVORY	CHOP 2
20		30+9+20/60H	WORKER2	FISHIVORY	CHOP 3
21		59+9/60H8H OVERFLOW	WORKER2	FISHIVORY	MOVE/FARM
22		0+17/100H	SETTLER	FISHIVORY	FARM CORN	MOVE/ROAD 1W
23	SLAVERY	SLAVERY	SLAVERY		FARM CORN	MOVE/FARM
24	3+9/24F	8+2/15	WARRIOR	FISHCORN	FARM CORN	MOVE/MINE FOREST HILL
25	12+9/24F	10+2/15	WARRIOR	FISHCORN
26	21+5/24FGROW 3	12+5/152H OVERFLOW	WARRIOR	CORNIVORY
27		17+15/100H	SETTLER	CORNIVORYFISH
28		32+13/100H	SETTLER	CORNIVORYFISH
29		45+13/100H	SETTLER	CORNIVORYFISH
30		58+13/100H	SETTLER	CORNIVORYFISH	CHOP 1	CHOP 1
31	WHIPP 1 POP	71+11+30/100H	SETTLER	CORNFISH	CHOP 2	CHOP 2
32		52+8/60H	GRANARY	IVORYMINE	CHOP 3	CHOP 3

Notes:
-Build warrior while growing to size 2.
-We lose 2h in the warrior over time.
-Is better to finish the granary in T33 to manage the food and the workers better. Either way we grow to size 4 in T37

[Ichabod]

I'm lazy and I haven't done any simming yet. I agree with settling in place (what's with ll the happiness around? ).

I promise I'll review the sim before the WB is out.

[Ichabod]

I spy with my little eye that we settled a city.

So that means retep already chose a naming scheme. How nice of him!

[Ichabod]

By the way, do I see it right that we have 2 huts near the scout? I'd get the souther hut first, then the one NW, and then explore near the silver, because I think it'd be nice to settle there, if possible. Or perhaps we can try to outsmart the mapmakers -> they probably placed some decent food sites near the start and one with commerce/happy, to provide a meaningful decision for the players. So, we should explore far away from the silver, to find the food places. Hm... I guess I'm overthinking it...

I wonder if starts are mirrored... Can we confirm this by demos? Does anyone have an inland Capital? If starts are not mirrored, going for the TGLh as you suggested might be a very good idea. It also fits into the game summary description of the first post: "Sparse updates of a terrible opening and failed attempt at a wonder".

What's the plan for such an early granary? I think it's worth going deeper into the question of growing the city to max size compared to heavily whipping. I don't think our city has a particularly good food surplus (when compared to the usual Capitals) and slavery is nerfed on RtR after all. I wish I had the math skills to make a comparision between the hammers we can generate when we compare a whipping strategy against a grow to happy cap and stay there pumping hammers, but I have no idea where to start such an analysis.

Well, perhaps we can whip some 2/3 settlers early and then focus on growth. It depends on a lot of things after all, like the rate we can improve the tiles near the Capital (no point in growing into unimproved tiles).

[retep]

Settle the city, more info avaible.
We indeed need a naming scheme!

The first time until I play nobody have a inland start. This time I didn't check but it should be the same.
Also Gavagai didn't settle in place. Which means he either move to the coast for a play for the GLH or more inland to try to get SH maybe.

[retep]

The whole whipping/grow thing is interesting. I kind of went through it in PB20. The granary obviously makes whipping more efficient as it makes the exchange from food to hammers better.

Growing need more workers turns(around 32 for a size 6 city) and is more expensive, hence why most of the big early capital focus in cottages all over.
Still I think we need more info(second city site) before making any decision.

[Ichabod]

So, I have to login because retep is doing everything wrong.




I'm absolutely sure we are being trolled here... I look at this, I think about it... Yup, we are being trolled, though I still don't know how. My guess is two maps.




Absolutely perfect second city. Because there's a fish hidden in the fog, I know it. Joking aside, if the sheep is the only food avaiable, it's too weak for a second city. We want better. No 1 food resource second city like in PBEM 62...




Starts are not mirrored, or some guys are totally . There's an inland Capital and someone is working a 3 food tile, not possible in our Capital (or someone moved 1W and is working the corn instead of the ivory, which would definetely be ).

I quite like our start!! We need a naming scheme thatwon't run out of names after the first 6 cities.

[Ichabod]

So, do we move to the southern hut next? I need confirmation so I can log in and play the instant the turn rolls.