WW38: The Story of the Stories

[Goreripper]

I am impressed with you city-bred solipsists!

Nobody was lynched

Start of Night 3

We did have a very good first two days so it is very sporting to give our foe(s) more time!

[Rowain]

Eh you know what Pindi sounds like town.

He was ready to throw pretty much anyone under the bus to avoid being lynched. So we must have a different idea on SK behavior

How about you tell us who you really watched N1

I got Lewwyn as Meiz' target from N1 and Brick told me that in case of a switch I would get the original target and not the switched one. (here)

Still the baffling thing is that Meiz got a no result on N1 and Krill on N2 (when Meiz watched Fenn and Krill jailed him).

Are you immune to watchers/trackers/others pindi?

[pindicator]

No, I'm not immune to anything. You're right that something doesn't add up:

I really don't see how Meiz's story adds up:


n2:
A) meiz watches fenn
B) krill jails fenn
meiz claims result of fenn, fenn claims a no result.

In order for this to hold true, and assuming no outside interference, Brick's order of operations for night actions has to put watcher ahead of jailer, which i'm pretty sure is backwards from how it normally occurs.


n1:
A) meiz watches lewwyn
B) krill jails lewwyn
C) lewwyn double-votes goreripper
D) I doctor ichabod
E) adrienier swaps targets between me and lewwyn

We know Lewwyn gave Goreripper the doublevote. We know Krill's jailing landed on me. Meiz claims that he got a no result watching Lewwyn.
The only way this can hold true, assuming everybody is telling the truth and assuming no outside interference is if the order of operations goes like this:
A - E - B - D and C can happen at any point. The jailing would have to happen after the switch, the watching would have to happen before everything so as to watch Lewwyn, which would make the watching rather useless. For instance, what if the jailing never happened and Lewwyn was targeted for the kill N1? In that case Meiz would still watch Lewwyn, Adrien would then switch, and the night kill would go to me, and Meiz would say "I didn't see anybody kill".

And I'm wrong before, it's the N2 result that doesn't make sense. If N1 happens as we'd expect it to then No Result makes sense but the N2 result is a lie.

You know what else explains a no kill on N1? Meiz trying to kill Lewwyn

[Meiz]

I believe the order for the night actions is: 1) switch 2) watch 3) jail 4) kill

So in scenario of Lewwyn not being jailed and being targeted for kill, I would still get the result of the killer.

I also told my N2 result before Krill revealed it.

[pindicator]

I'm town watcher. Night 1 watched Lewwyn and got no result. Last night warched Fenn and saw Krill visit him.

Seems like Krill has some explaining to do.

I'm guessing this is some kind of attempt to drum up confusion as people started to vote for you. You were one of the last people to claim and when people start to vote for you for not responding you had to think fast to make something up. So you tried to throw blame on Krill by saying he's lying about being a jailor by saying you saw him visit Meiz.

[pindicator]

I believe the order for the night actions is: 1) switch 2) watch 3) jail 4) kill

So in scenario of Lewwyn not being jailed and being targeted for kill, I would still get the result of the killer.

I also told my N2 result before Krill revealed it.

Okay, i re-read and you did.

But I don't believe that order of operations. Jailing is supposed to block all incoming and outgoing actions. Or do people with more experience know of it playing out like Meiz is claiming?

Brick said that the rule generally was if a role affects another role then it goes first. Jailing seems like an affecting role to me

[Meiz]

The comment was made with the mindset of getting no result from night 1. I was sure Krill's jailing had prevented my result then. I also thought Bob had forced Krill to target him with his jailing (Bob's message couple of posts before). He later explained that he can only suggest the target, not force it.

[Meiz]

Ah, so you think I had some other method of knowing Krill's target.

[pindicator]

But jailing a person would certainly affect the result of that person being watched? So I'm still lost on this

[pindicator]

Ah, so you think I had some other method of knowing Krill's target.

I think you are lying about something. Or Brick's order of operations are non-sensical.