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Well, I was going to cast my vote now, but looks like there is only one horse in this race. Not surprised at all by the reaction, the wolves would love to kill the double voter villager on a day lynch. If you guys manage to lynch our double voter by an unanimous decision, at least I can take satisfaction in the fact that I don't have to accept that crown of the most terrible player that so many of you have tried to put on my head.
Rose, I have changed. I am desperate, and I am frustrated. I have been on the chopping block two times before, but at those times the game was still young. While I always preferred to die in the night due to my role, I knew that villagers tend to die at the beginning when there is not much to go on, and Muriel dying would not mean the village loses. Sadly we've killed too many villagers and too few scum, and my death at this point of the game will seal it to an almost certain scum win. I have the information that my death would give the village, and I don't think I could kill four scum in a row. If you guys manage to pull it off, then awesome, we made a great comeback to victory. But so far we have not killed a single scum except by a vig shot on Night 1, and even that was likely made by Bert who is no longer in the game with us. I wish he was, because he had me cleared with the villager PM business.
I will not argue. Those were my honest thoughts on everyone. You can agree, or you can disagree. I have been wrong before, I could be wrong now. I don't insist that they all must be true. When I said I don't think I could kill 4 wolves in a row, I meant it. But I did not want to give up when I've tried so hard, so I posted them anyway, and hopefully they are some help to you, whether it is before or after my death.
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How does getting yourself lynched by unanimous vote not make you a terrible villager? Perhaps a bit more introspection might be in order. Your post is pretty rich coming from someone who wanted to enforce a "don't give up" policy earlier by lynching Scarlet John.
I actually forgot about that meta-tell that Bert pointed out. It's a weak tell, but not to be completely ignored.
We could lynch Short Richard and wait for Saul to make another scry before deciding what to do with Muriel. If Saul gets a third guilty result on someone that we think is innocent, that would lend even more credence to the insane seer theory.
Another option, which is more of a tactical lynch, is to lynch Saul so we can see how he flips. If he's an insane seer or a fool, that should be reflected in his flip. So that way we'll be able to know for certain whether he's a genuine seer, insane seer, random fool, or scum. Since scum seems like a somewhat unlikely outcome, this means that we're essentially gambling that we'll be able to lynch perfectly based on the information that we gain. That's possible, but I think I'd rather gamble on Short Richard being scum and collect more information that way. The only real "jackpot" in terms of information would be if Saul flips as an insane seer, and as noted above, simply letting him make another scry also helps to determine that.
Saul: If you're allowed to, you should consider scanning yourself. If the result comes up "guilty", you'll know something is fishy.
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Stop bringing up your stupid double-vote role - its irrelevant to your alignment, and has no bearing on anything. Yeah, lynching a double role will make us be much worse players then you :rolleyes:
And as for the rest of the post, it basically amounts to "I'm village, so lynching me would be bad."
Oh and there is no way the wolves would want you dead, double vote or no. Regardless of alignment, you have had a extremely destabilizing effect on the village, and I'm sure they'll be sad to see you go.
(Ignoring that, there is no way a wolf would vote based on such a minor power role, wolves [should] base on their assumed character and what feels natural, not based on whether it'll kill off such a comparatively weak role)
@Jon, there's an easier way to determine if he's insane or not...
I definitely don't think its worth keeping Muriel alive, and I don't think Saul Will last another night (because this thread is no longer wanting to lynch him for the Kate lunch, if his results are inverted they want to stop it ASAP). Nor do I think we'll get anything from a Richard lynch.
How many times must I discharge my blunderbuss?
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I think Saul may well live through the night. If Saul gets inverted results (or random results that happen to coincide with inverted results so far), the wolves will know it, and killing him would mean also giving up Muriel and her double vote. And if he gets random results, the wolves will also know it, and probably let him live, since he isn't a threat.
If we lynch Muriel and she flips as a wolf, then I agree Saul is probably a goner.
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(July 31st, 2013, 01:56)Know-Nothing Jon Wrote: Speaking of scum targeting - why do you think they chose to kill first Bert and then Lady Elizabeth before you? I'm not asking to paint you in a bad light, but it's not entirely logical, if they're just trying to eliminate confirmed villagers. It seems unlikely that they were planning to mislynch you. One answer to this might be that Muriel is innocent and they wanted her to keep attacking you, as a useful distraction.
Nevertheless... Muriel, so we can talk about something new tomorrow.
I don't know. I actually was a little insulted that they killed courage before me :P.
I suspect because I haven't been very active, they didn't view me as a threat.
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Tbh that meta-tell seems pretty weak. Muriel posted that as post #89 respectively #97. At that point there had been quite some discussion and what she stated was just "I would describe it exactly like that". I don't agree with Bert that a wolf wouldn't make that statement, not when you take all the discussion that already started on page 3 into account.
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(July 31st, 2013, 05:40)Muriel The Slow Wrote: Well, I was going to cast my vote now, but looks like there is only one horse in this race. Not surprised at all by the reaction, the wolves would love to kill the double voter villager on a day lynch. If you guys manage to lynch our double voter by an unanimous decision, at least I can take satisfaction in the fact that I don't have to accept that crown of the most terrible player that so many of you have tried to put on my head.
I still think you should cast your vote. I also think you should not give up as easily.
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Don't worry Rose, I haven't given up and I will vote if a good candidate enters the race. I just won't argue. Saving me just to kill a random target would be bad. I need to give everyone some space so that if we do lynch someone else than me, we don't lynch him or her just because "it's not Muriel".
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Muriel, why don't you vote? It is not over, and you say it is not over, but you act like it is over.
You just gave 4 suspects, so why not vote for one? I don't understand
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I do not want to vote for the person who is trying the hardest. Was trying the hardest now she doesn't try for some reason 
I read Short Richard and he did not post at all the day I revealed! Has hardly posted since. Who would be happy to not post and let us miss-lynch people? A wolf that's who.
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