WW16: The Outlaws and The Olives

[Mattimeo]

Like thestick was?

thestick stopped / didn't start in the first place.

[Gaspar]

Like thestick was?

I think its a pretty reasonable assumption that the scum has gotten their act together after yesterday's wake-up call. Or rather, its an incredibly dangerous assumption that they will remain as obviously disorganized and terribad as yesterday.

[uberfish]

I believed Mattimeo's claim and was one of the first to question thestick's. I don't think Mattimeo's wagon had enough momentum to overtake thestick for the lynch. My posts weren't there because I don't think they were required.

Actually, after the flash wagon on Matt it was 6 matt - 4 thestick. In fact, as you were the 6th player on that wagon, you should have been aware that there WAS momentum on it.

Don't twist my words. I don't know if thestick was bussed or not, only the wolves do. Also, whether he was or not, I am certain that all the wolves wouldn't have been involved in it so to suggest that suspicion of you and novice is wrong/misguided just due to that is ridiculous imo.

I'm twisting nothing. It's reasonable to suspect me and it's reasonable to suspect novice. It's not reasonable to suspect both of us at the same time, because it makes no sense that Novice would bus thestick hard at the same time I tried to save him.

I am trying to ensure that the village doesn't go off trusting people who are in no way confirmed yet (hence my notice of suspicion on novice) and directing towards people I think are guilty (you at the moment)

Well why the need to issue a warning about trusting novice at this point in time? The possibility of a bus on thestick has already been mentioned numerous times and it's not as if we had a massive wave of people following him onto Qqqqqq.

[Bigger]

sareln, this are the games you played in since I started playing -
ww12 - you were alive at the endgame, I believe (lots were, it was basically a village route)
ww13 - you survived to the final day, where only 3 people alive, including 2 wolves and you. I remember that day quite well. Technically didn't even die then, according to Lewwyn's write up :P. This despite (more likely, because of) you only had 25 points the whole game.
ww14 - again, you weren't lynched or night killed. Zak was night killed and you died as a result of being his "lover," which wolf-novice knew, of course. still, that was the next to the last day of the game
ww15 you were finally lynched, but not until late in the game - lost village was running out scapegoats at this poiint anyway

hell, in ww11 you were scum and still made it to the "modern era" which I assume is pretty late for a civ themed game .

How is that over-exaggerating?

All this is unimportant, but the point is there are very few "facts" because you don't defend yourself or give us very much data to work with. All we have is your day 1 voting pattern which is scummy. I would much prefer you discuss that then how long you typically live.

[Jkaen]

Bleh - lot of noise and uh, more noise. I actually think villagers are making most of the noise and the scum is just cackling and rolling a blunt, to coin a phrase.

I think we're just eating lynchbait. Qgqqqqq is pretty clearly lynch bait to me, he seems like he's trying just has a few restrictions in terms of RL and is still getting his feet wet in the game. I learned my lesson a while ago about defending Sareln but just seems so lazy to me. Its not like we're going to draw him out, he really hasn't done anything yet and while lurker as policy lynch isn't so bad I think we have more information out there than that.

Catwalk - eh. He's the crown prince of tinfoil hats. So its hard to say whether this crazy is a reaction to pressure or just usually crazy. Its incredibad town play, though. I think he's a legit candidate but I'd still like to hear something from Ichy body before moving on. As in an actual post with some scumhunting thoughts rather than dead silence.

On an aside, I think its very scummy to ask what Mattimeo did specifically. But I don't think its scummy to ask his rationale behind not protecting zak. So, eh, wtf Matt?

You seem to have covered well what you don't like about the curret targets, but as yet I haven't noticed you offering alternates, care to make a case?

I have a meeting I need to do before I can give time to this.

For now, congratulations Tasunke, repetition without facts (or very few if you want to count your harping on my fluffy first post which still had votes in it!) can indeed get you somewhere.

I do not trust Novice at this point enough for a mayor vote.

I still prefer Lewwyn for that role.

On first read-through completion, Catwalk for the noose.

@ Bigger, if I recall correctly I've been lynched every game but one (where I was night-killed). You're over-exaggerating and I'm not sure why. Perhaps you've just joined us too recently to know, but I held the moniker "the mislynchable" for a while there before Tasunke showed up .

Yet again you vote without giving any reasoning behind the vote at all, can you please explain your voting otherwise I think its enevitable you will get strung up

[Injera]

More x-posting

I have no problem with a policy lynch if there are no quality candidates. I just wonder why we had a bunch of quality options EOD1 and now we're all LETS LYNCH SARELN LOL or LETS LYNCH QQQUEUEQQCUE LMAOZ. Its as if we've all decided we're going to roleplay Lewwyn from the first couple days last game.

Sareln isn't just a lurker, he's a lurker whose every substantive action helped a known wolf. As people have said already, Qg never developed a huge wagon. We're talking, what, 4 votes total, never at the same time?

Why was Ichabod a good candidate yesterday and nothing today when he's not so much as posted?

Well, it was ultimately Zak making the Ichabod argument.

Why did Mattimeo not protect obvtarget zakalwe?

I don't know, but I think you're smarter than to ask unless you think there's a really good chance he's a wolf. Here:

Matt said he believed his power couldn't be used on others, but had to clarify with Brick. Maybe he did clarify and found out it could be used on himself. If so, we don't want the wolves to know. Maybe he knew all along he could use it on himself and wanted to trap the wolves. Maybe he just assumed that the wolves would think Zak too dangerous of a target. Unless you think he's lying and are trying to catch him, do you really think it's helpful for the village to tell the wolves how our baner goes about trying to second-guess them?

[uberfish]

I think its a pretty reasonable assumption that the scum has gotten their act together after yesterday's wake-up call. Or rather, its an incredibly dangerous assumption that they will remain as obviously disorganized and terribad as yesterday.

How do you know that scum were "obviously disorganized"?

[Injera]

I think its a pretty reasonable assumption that the scum has gotten their act together after yesterday's wake-up call. Or rather, its an incredibly dangerous assumption that they will remain as obviously disorganized and terribad as yesterday.

Good thing no one made that "incredibly dangerous" assumption, then. Matt's the one trying to clear Catwalk because the wolves wouldn't let him keep struggling. I'm simply saying that they weren't able to help thestick out, we shouldn't assume they would be able to help Catwalk out, either.

[Gaspar]

Unless you think he's lying and are trying to catch him, do you really think it's helpful for the village to tell the wolves how our baner goes about trying to second-guess them?

Yes, captain obvious - I do think its entirely possible he's lying and am trying to get into his head without drawing a flashing fucking neon sign over it. But I guess that's out now. You're like the spiritual antecedent to zak, absolutely everything about your play is annoying.

I wish I knew how zak gets away with subtle scum-hunting and every fucking time I do everyone has to call me on it. He's been a wolf more often than me at this point. I hate everyone.

[waterbat]

If you think I seem like a wolf why did I not make your wolf team?

I asked myself the same question before hitting submit... do i feel strongly enough about injera to include him? I ended up decided what I put in the list was most likely true - I was just coloring you as wolf my trying too hard to link what you had written to previous experience.