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WW16: The Outlaws and The Olives

Yeah, that makes sense

By the way, why are you advocating to me? Didn't you think i was scum?
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DAY ONE

thestick - 9 - zakalwe, novice, Bigger, tasunke, Mattimeo, Arromir, Serdoa, Twinkletoes89, Molach
Bigger - 8 - Rowain, Lewwyn, Injera, jkaen, Sareln, Merovech, uberfish, Catwalk
Injera - 2 - Gaspar, Waterbat
Waterbat - 1 - Azza
uberfish - 1 - Qgqqqqq
Gaspar - 1 - Selrahc
jkaen - 1 - Meiz
Merovech - 1 - Pindicator

Players not voting: Ichabod, thestick
Zakalwe was night-killed. novice was post restricted. Qqqqq tracked Mattimeo with no result. Injera followed Pindicator with no result.

DAY TWO

Sareln - 8 - Mattimeo, Arromir, tasunke, Merovech, Molach, Pindicator, Twinkletoes89, Serdoa
Pindicator - 7 - Rowain, Sareln, Ichabod, uberfish, novice, Meiz, Catwalk
Ichabod - 5 - Lewwyn, Injera, Gaspar, Qgqqqqq, jkaen
uberfish - 3 - Azza, Bigger, Waterbat
Qgqqqqq - 1 - Selrahc

Serdoa was night-killed. Bigger suicided. Meiz was post restricted. Qqqqq tracked novice with no result. Injera followed Mattimeo with no result.

DAY THREE

Merovech- 9 - uberfish, Catwalk, Waterbat, Mattimeo, novice, Meiz, Rowain, Gaspar, Azza
Catwalk - 7 - Lewwyn, Pindicator, Qgqqqqq, Twinkletoes89, Ichabod, Merovech, Injera
Rowain- 1 - tasunke
Selrahc - 1 - jkaen

Players not voting: Arromir, Molach, Selrahc

Uberfish was night-killed. Qqqqq tracked Injera visiting Catwalk. Injera followed Catwalk with no result.

DAY FOUR

Mattimeo - 8 - novice, Waterbat, Catwalk, Meiz, Ichabod, Rowain, Twinkletoes89, Molach
Qgqqqqq - 5 - Selrahc, tasunke, Gaspar, jkaen, Mattimeo
Injera - 2 - Qgqqqqq, Pindicator
Catwalk - 2 - Injera, Azza
Selrahc - 1 - Lewwyn

Arromirwas mod-killed for inactivity.

Qgqqqq was night-killed. Injera followed Azza with no result.

DAY FIVE

Rowain - 8 - Pindicator, novice, Selrahc, Twinkletoes89, Injera, Gaspar, Catwalk, Waterbat
Pindicator - 4 - jkaen, Azza, Ichabod, Meiz
Ichabod - 2 - Lewwyn, Rowain
Selrahc - 2 - Molach, tasunke

Rowain was lynched, but didn't die until the end of night 5.

Rowain or noone was night-killed. Injera followed Lewwyn with no result.

DAY SIX

Meiz - 5 - Azza, tasunke, Gaspar, Twinkletoes89, Ichabod
tasunke - 5 - Pindicator, Selrahc, Injera, Waterbat, Catwalk
Azza - 3 - Lewwyn, Meiz, novice
Selrahc - 2 - Molach, jkaen

As mayor, novice chose to lynch Tasunke.

Injera was night-killed.

DAY SEVEN

Molach - 6 - novice, Lewwyn, Waterbat, Azza, Gaspar, Pindicator
Azza - 4 - Meiz, Catwalk, Molach, Ichabod
Gaspar - 1 - Selrahc
novice - 1 - jkaen
Meiz - 1 - Twinkletoes89

Noone was nightkilled.
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DAY EIGHT

Azza - 6 - Lewwyn, Catwalk, Waterbat, Gaspar, Pindicator, novice
Waterbat - 4 - Meiz, Twinkletoes89, Ichabod, Azza
Gaspar - 1 - Selrahc
Selrahc - 1 - jkaen

Noone was night-killed

DAY NINE

Selrahc - 5 - novice, Pindicator, Ichabod, jkaen, Catwalk
Gaspar - 2 - Selrahc, Twinkletoes89
Waterbat - 1 - Meiz
Pindicator - 1 - Gaspar
Ichabod - 1 - Lewwyn

Players not voting: Waterbat

Ichabod was nightkilled, although novice could have been targeted due to bodyguard ability.

DAY TEN

Lewwyn - 4 - novice, Pindicator, Meiz, Gaspar
Meiz - 3 - Twinkletoes89, Waterbat, Catwalk
Pindicator - 1 - jkaen
Gaspar - 1 - Lewwyn

novice was night-killed.

DAY ELEVEN

Waterbat - 3 - Twinkletoes89, Meiz, jkaen
jkaen - 4 - pindicator, gaspar, catwalk, waterbat

Mayoral Election
Twinkletoes89 - 3 - Twinkletoes89, Meiz, jkaen
pindicator - 3 - pindicator, catwalk, Gaspar
Gaspar - 1 - waterbat
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There's always the chance I'm wrong, pindicator.
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Sorry I couldn't be more active near the end there, today just didnt match well with prior commitments
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Twinkletoes89 was lynched. He was a village Paranoid Chemist

Quote:Paranoid Chemist - You worry that the mafia will seek to ensure your death by day, and have prepared a poison for that event. If you are lynched during the day, you will fire your dart gun at the crowd of remaining players right before you die. The following night, you may target another person to be poisoned. That player will die at the end of the night.
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Killed not lynched
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GG Twinkletoes.

I was expecting no kill if we were indeed in LyLo. So maybe novice is right about there being 1 wolf left instead of 2? Need to see who makes sense as a solo wolf and add that to the scum scenarios I was putting together.
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Mildly surprised by that, gg TT.

So there's 5 left...

Gaspar
Pindicator
Catwalk
Waterbat
Meiz

So if there are 2 scum left, we'd have been at lylo even without a kill. However, in this situation scum only need 1 person to vote with them to get a mislynch. With TT alive if we got the mayor vote right they'd need two. That's pretty minor, so I'd say the likelihood of a lone remaining mafia is slightly higher now. Regardless, it doesn't change what we need to do today is hit a lynch. Though the calculus is slightly different on 2 wolves vs 1 wolf - particularly that in 2 wolves there are certain combinations of scum that make more sense than others.

Under a 2 mafia metagame:

A lot depends on whether we assume Waterbat's guilty. If Waterbat is scum then that makes Meiz a likely innocent and makes Waterbat's scum buddy come from Pindicator, Catwalk and myself. If we think Waterbat's innocent, I'd say Meiz is almost definitely scum because in a two innocent situation there's no way scum would let their votes pile on one candidate.

I guess by this logic I'd say we either vote Waterbat or Meiz, with my lean towards Waterbat while figuring out his partner as we go.

1-mafia

In this situation, we don't get much from yesterday, really. In this setup, you can talk yourself into thinking Meiz or Pindicator who were the primary "drivers" on the lynch yesterday. I think its unlikely Waterbat would have been able to fight off the lynch by himself. Catwalk's behavior more consistent with a lone remaining scum as well.

I guess since we have 48 hours and only 5 players, maybe some others can chime in on the overarching meta here. I've assumed 6 total and 2 left all game, but I definitely have some doubt now.
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This was an error by the scum team. TT was not going to change his mind on me. If we get lucky and hit wolf today, I'm actually hopeful we could still win! With TT there was no chance!

I'm re-energized by that kill. With TT alive, there was no point in participating much. Don't have a red oculus amount of time over the next 48, but I'll burn the night oil if needed.
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(October 21st, 2012, 18:04)waterbat Wrote: This was an error by the scum team. TT was not going to change his mind on me. If we get lucky and hit wolf today, I'm actually hopeful we could still win! With TT there was no chance!

I'm re-energized by that kill. With TT alive, there was no point in participating much. Don't have a red oculus amount of time over the next 48, but I'll burn the night oil if needed.

You realize night-killing TT is also the only path you have to victory as a solo scum, right? Waterbat, if you are village, you needed to be burning the night oil regardless of who died tonight. Because right now you make the most sense as scum

But let's pretend you aren't for a second:

I'm pretty certain about Catwalk's innocence, mostly from earlier play. Lewwyn was pushing him from day 2 until day 4, and it wasn't until mattimeo flipped scum that Lewwyn (and everyone else) let off. And I think it's more likelier that Lewwyn was protecting his scum-buddy mattimeo than running some tricky circle-blame scheme, especially since the other wolves we've hung attacked Catwalk day 2. Additional point: Catwalk's insistence on pushing Azza despite being called out for having blinders on. The natural reaction for wolves is to hedge, because they know their target is innocent. But Catwalk pushed straight through up until azza was lynched. So I believe Catwalk is innocent.

Gaspar & Meiz for the win in this case. Either they're a pair or the wolf is a solo among them.

Now, back to you being guilty. Who's your partner?

It's not Catwalk for the same reasons I put above. I also cannot see it being Meiz, because Meiz has been hounding you since day 7 or 8. He's voted for you even when it meant putting himself in harm's way. So Gaspar would have to be your buddy in this case


So I think it's either Gaspar & Meiz, or Gaspar & Waterbat.


But there's another possibility: only one scum left. Again, I'm more sure of Catwalk's innocence than anybody else's. So I'm left between waterbat, Gaspar, & Meiz for the final out. Need to find the surest thing of a villager out of these 3 because there being 1 scum left would also mean we have a mislynch left

The TT kill does make me think it's more likely that there is 1 scum, and it does seem to indicate more towards waterbat being solo scum. Waterbat as scum has to night-kill TT or keep him to the end, and TT wasn't going to let waterbat survive all the way to the end. If waterbat was innocent, wolves would want to keep TT alive - that would be another mislynch for them and TT had already proven to be a willing cheerleader.


Going to re-read the last few days. Until then, waterbat and pindicator

@gaspar - why no votes?
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