RB Pitboss #2 [SPOILERS] - Gandhi of Korea (Broker33 & plako)

[plako]

1 Galley is moving towards India. I think 1 galley can carry enough troops. It can drop them on our island and make another trip.

HRE has a stack behind the wood tile that looks like this:



Wood tile has 3*Longbows+1*Praet+1*Chariot and there is 1 axe in the La Mut. Naturally after he was able to plant the road there it didn't make sense to try to attack the wood stack.

After taking the picture I switched research to Guilds and it should arrive in 4 turns.

India sent us the message below. I'm not sure if Whosit is still included in the group. Slaze was pretty convincing when he confirmed that he continues attack against Whosit.

slaze signed peace with Kathlete this turn, which pretty much confirms that he is switching sides and going over to the Kathlete/Nakor/Whosit group. I would suggest that we stop including him in group emails.

If Dantski is able to provide updates on Nakor's research, we can swap our Espionage over to Kathlete and take over on research watch there. What do you think?

[pocketbeetle]

Sentry Chariot

[plako]

For some reason HRE moved their stack out of our visibility range and left 3*Longbows+1*Chariot in the woods.

Whosit is going for Engineering that is naturally bad for us. Our time window to hit with Knights might become too short.

[plako]

Whosit has got gold somewhere (HRE most likely) and can probably run using 100% to engineering in 4 turns. We get Guilds next turn. I had to consider, if there is enough time to whip and utilise knights or would it be better to focus on something else at this point.

Dantski reported that HRE stack we did saw few turns ago is in the hill SW from La Mut.

[plako]

Whosit started a Golden Age. We're back on vassalage and I'll be whipping us some Knights. I've preliminary plans to send something towards Whosits Capital and simulatenaously threaten Nar Shaddaa. If nescessary I'm ready to give up Cheju for HRE to raze (I doubt they could keep it), if we can capture Nar Shaddaa.

[plako]

Broker had a chat with Nakor and Athlete. It seems that Athlete is funding Whosit. This is quite alarming. What is the relationship between slaze, athlete and Whosit and is slaze seriously attacking Whosit? We continue like this is the case, but try to be cautious.

[Broker33]

Posting one of the chats that I have with Plako just so you guys know I acutaly am involved here.

Basically we are going to press the attack with Whosit and lay a trap for Nakor if they attack Chendu but ultimatly that city is expendable.

me: howdy
4:19 PM plako: hi
me: you see the chats
plako: Yes. Especially good chat with Athlete
Him financing Whosit makes me very worried
me: yeah pointed out 1 we knew 2 its a waste of money
plako: What is slaze's relationship to him or Whosit?
4:20 PM Something doesn't match
me: unsure think slaze is probably working with athelete against india but still hitting whosit
I think athelete is being oportunistic
4:21 PM you can only play both sides against the middle for so long before you get stung
4:22 PM plako: On the other hand he has signed deal with India to attack slaze so we had to suspect He is still with Whosit against slaze or slaze knows what is happening and isn't attacking Whosit properly
and they are reforming against India and probably us
4:23 PM well we can't know so better play like slaze is still attacking properly
me: we have to assume that at this time
maybe swing the sentry chariot and check narsharda if it isnt reinforced that is a good sign
plako: Nar Shaddaa has been gradually getting more troops, but nothing too big yet
4:24 PM me: I think we should move the macemen and axes forward and use the knights to counter nakor if he comes in
just keep the knights out of sight
If we can draw in his stack and smash it we will be free to attack whosit
plako: I'm actually thinking we should switch Chendu to Nar Shaddaa
4:25 PM me: what just let him take the city?
plako: Well have something there, but not enough to keep to free units to attack Nar Shaddaa+ Whosit's capital
4:26 PM So if he attacks he gets it but potentially we getmore
Chendu isn't really that great city
me: agree but with knight stack in reserve at least for the attack on narsharda we may be able to counter his attack if he comes through with too little
4:27 PM 5 knights even with only 1 or 2 cats should stall any attack
plako: true, but if we want to threaten his capital we need Knigths there
me: yea move them forward after we are in position to take narsharda
he wont wait till after to move in he will try to draw our troops back
4:28 PM if we move them away and he dosent move in then we are golden
keep knights hidden until then
they can catch up to the mace axe stack fairly quickly and in pleanty of time for whosits capital
4:29 PM plako: Sounds good. I've plans also try to take forest near the capital with Woodsman mace+Longbow unless he plants troops there
me: basically just hedging the bet
basically we move forward and take nar sharda
Knights in reserve if nakor dosent take the bait combined force move on whosit capital
4:30 PM and sacrafice chedu if he comes late
4:31 PM does that make sense?
is there a tile we can put the knights so they can reach 1 w of chendu but still out of sight?
plako: ok. Let's seewhat happens. In 5 turns I should have decent stack ofKnights in the main land
me: you just whipped 5 right?
plako: 1 Hwacha and I will whip more during the next 2 turns
4:32 PM With HAs+Chariot we've over 10 2 movers
me: ok once they are in place trap is set and we should start moving in position to threaten narsharda
with 1 movers
that will force thier hand.
4:33 PM what is defense in chedu after we move attack force out
2 lbs 2 hwatcha axe spear something like that?
4:34 PM plako: It depends what we want there. We lack Hwacha's
me: well figure he comes in with 10 units to take that definatly a superior force
plako: But that would be quite good stack
me: hwatchas hit then 5 knights kill 5 most likely and there are 5 units to attack 7 defenders all of a sudden
4:35 PM plako: althooufh we could replace axe with X-bow
me: probably better to use axe for attack
can also move some of seouls defenders there if necessary
we have good visibility on that side and can always fall back in time
4:36 PM I'll try to post some signs
plako: Seoul has only units to make it happy
me: ok
I think we should move to the hill 1 s of Nar shardar and hope he attacks out accross the river
plako: However 3pop whip frees coupleof units temporarily
4:37 PM me: if he dosent then we move ne and then attack
4:38 PM plako: ok. Let's see what he can collect there and try that. We could also stay in the hill and bombard
me: yeah probably best
plako: However he can soon build castle that makes cities hard to take
4:39 PM me: slow to bombard that is for sure but we are also parked on his mine so slower to build
plako: true
me: also if we can have a couple knights there we could pillage or harrass reinforcements
4:40 PM lets build up in his face and motivate him
plako: Sounds good

[Broker33]

Went into the game and posted some signes about troop movements and positioing

Nakor had a chariot next to Chedu so I killed it I just couldnt help myself

I am guessing he was looking at defenses so he thinks we are weak need to move knights into postition as quick as possible.

[plako]

Broker I think you acted out of order. Nakor didn't have his turn yet ended. They definately would move that Chariot back to forest cover. We also got peace offer from Whosit:

Hopefully this message will be more to your liking. I have had a chance to reconsider my position, and it's looking more and more like that peace, even onerous peace, will be in my best interest. Nar Shaddaa will be yours, as well as the land around Seoul. On that, I realize that there is no discussion.

As for your other terms: I still cannot in good conscience give you rights to the island off my shores because that would only submit me to a slow death by strangulation rather than a quick death. Hopefully this is understandable and acceptable to you.

Secondly, I would need agreement to a Non-Aggression Pact so that I can be assured that you will not turn on me once you have what you want. A long-term NAP that lasts until around Turn 300 seems good to me.

Lastly, as part of this peace deal, you must make peace with Holy Rome at the same time you make peace with me. I am certain they will accept it.

NAP is too long, but we could use some time for peaceful build up. I chatted with slaze and if we include him to the peace treaty it would also be alright to him. I don't want to sign peace without hearing him 1st. This offer is probably originating from Athlete based on chat beween him and Broker. However I think we might be too far in the military build up now so that it would be best just to use it at this point.

[plako]

I sent this to Nakor:

I think Broker might have accidentally acted out of order and killed your Chariot that was beside Cheju. We can request reload or maybe make it up some other way e.g. gold (would 30 be suitable amount). Please let me know your preference hopefully soon so that we can pause the game, if reload is needed.