[NO PLAYERS] Lurking and Mapmaking PB55

[Charriu]

What are your plans after liberalism and the dogpile?

Tech and go to space. Same as always.

Does not look like Jowy is conceding anytime soon.

[Bobchillingworth]

This is dumb, and I hate to see good people waste time; I believe that at this point everyone has explicitly conceded except Jowy (and civac, obv.)  I don't think any of the lurkers are tracking if Jowy wants to concede or not; I haven't seen him write about it one way or another, and my most recent post was in response to an unrelated game mechanics question.

If only there was a way for a lurker who thinks this game is over to explicitly ask Jowy in his thread if he's ready to concede or wants to continue.  

I kind of figured that prodding Commodore (who earlier said he had discussed concession with Lew, and already figured Jowy was the holdout) to have A Talk with Jowy was better than effectively telling Jowy to pack it up in his own thread.

[Rusten]

You are influencing the game and making Commodore want to attack Jowy again. He wasn't sure until you confirmed it. I think it's better to just intervene and call it than to start directing players on how to end it. Not setting a great precedent -- surely lurkers shouldn't be able to tell a player whether another player has conceded?

Jowy might be annoyed if the game is called, but there's a pretty clear majority that wants it ended, and his plan on winning through space without going to war at all was already dubious. Now he's even had chunks taken off him from what I understand.

[Bobchillingworth]

Yeah, I expected Commodore to use the in-game chat to approach Jowy and ask him to consider conceding, or send him a PM or something, not to apparently elect to sit on the information and instead translate it into more in-game warring to literally beat a concession out of him.


Apologies. Someone else can end this game, or it can run forever; it's not my business.

[Rusten]

https://www.realmsbeyond.net/forums/show...#pid774239

Btw just in case, I will concede if or when everyone else has. I want to keep playing, but I don't want to be selfish and keep 7 other players playing if they don't want to. The whole premise of this game for me was to see if I can get to space with a smaller empire and nothing has changed about that. I expected there to be a runaway leader in the game, and I feared people would concede way before any chance to reach an actual victory condition. It was probably a fool's errand to even try. But yeah, I wanted to put that out there since I got prodded a few times. What do you lurkers think, should I keep playing until the end?

Looks like Jowy is willing to concede. That should be everyone, right?