[SPOILER] Joao of Inca: Time for WAR - scooter's thread

[scooter]

T49 was pretty uneventful, just a whip at AA:



I'll steal the floodplains back next turn to grow to size 3 in 1T. Other than that, settler is on the way to gold city, and I shuffled some workers to build roads that will get the city founded 1T faster, so yay for that.

[novice]

Is there another factor here I'm missing?

Depends on your planned horizontal to vertical growth ratio. Monarchy first also delays currency. I often delay monarchy unless circumstances dictate vertical growth. E.g. little room for expansion.

[scooter]

T50 stats:

3 cities
6 workers
1 settler (will settle gold T52)

[scooter]

Alright, time for a slightly more detailed account of T50 which was played this morning... First, I was able to get AA back to size 3 in 1T which was nice:



I actually am happy with my earlier decision to farm that floodplains, as it's been enormously useful to BOTH cities thus far... I have been swapping it back and forth constantly. BB got its pigs finished which was a big boost as well. I managed to meet someone this turn:



I actually like this, because my understanding thus far has been that Nakor settled OFF the plains hill and has been lagging way behind so far as a result. Quick look at the demos confirms this:



Remember my food total has been less-than-impressive and he's been behind me all game. Production:



Yikes? That huge drop there for me was when I double-whipped AA. The "largest civs" popped up:



I thiink this is based on land area, where I'm 3rd. Either that or population, which would make sense as all my cities are small right now due to a whipping round.

[NobleHelium]

Largest should definitely mean land area, yeah.

[mackoti]

A quechea is costing 15 on normal speed? Well if thats true you just lost 9 hamers.With that overflow you could finish a worker in 2 turns....

[scooter]

Well Nakor shot me a message with the turn saying hello and also saying he met Lewwyn... So that (to me) meant it's pretty likely that we are either:

Cyneheard-Lewwyn-Nakor-scooter

or

Lewwyn-Nakor-scooter-Cyneheard


I was hoping for the former, as Nakor is likely to be lagging behind and Cyneheard is probably the favorite to win given his abilities. However I opened the save and:



I guess it's possible I'm next to Nakor and not Lewwyn. We'll see. Either way, there's a 50% chance I'm on the east end of this... I know I just took shots of demos last turn, but now with Lewwyn's stats here, I'll do it again. Food:



He's definitely got an edge on me here in food... I think he's definitely played things differently. Evidence of this is the GNP graph:



Look at that giant spike... All I can think is that he founded the gold city first/early and has been working the gold. That would make sense with the fact that he landed an early religion... So I'm going to guess he founded the gold city early. Here's the demos:



I'm actually just 1 food back, and I believe I'll be in the lead next turn because BB just grew (needs its tiles adjusted some), CC will grow at end of next turn, and DD will be founded next turn. Production graph:



Lewwyn and I both just spiked, so I believe he's the leader here too.... So I'm thinking he may be leading in Food, MFG, AND GNP..? Not sure, because the charts are generally a turn behind while the demos are pretty much live I believe.

[scooter]

A quechea is costing 15 on normal speed? Well if thats true you just lost 9 hamers.With that overflow you could finish a worker in 2 turns....

Sigh. It's missing details like this that kill me.

[scooter]

Well I definitely hadn't planned to update every turn, but this game has been more fun than I expected (partially due to the quick pace)... Also, it's forcing me to think closely about little details that I normally don't bother with... Like for instance, I think these floodplains farms have been beneficial so far, but what's the point where I want to sacrifice 1-food for cottages? At some point it's definitely better to swap, it's just hard to tell how close it is. Probably pretty soon I'll cottage over that shared farm between AA and BB, but for now it's been great given the whipping I've been doing. Fun stuff.

So here's two screenshots from T52. First, DD was founded:



Keeping with my goofy naming theme as you see. Here's an overview of all my territory:



AA will finish slow-building the settler, then grow to size 4, then build another settler at size 4 to be double-whipped. BB will grow to size 3 in 2T, swap to worker, and then the following turn a chop will go into the worker. I'm also building a cottage on that floodplains 2E of the city. CC will probably pause for a worker next turn (it grew and completed Terrace at EoT) as the only improved tiles is the hill and cow... I may ditch the farm on the FP (even though I started it) and go with a cottage instead. Still thinking that over.

At DD, I'm noodling between hooking the gold first or farming the floodplains. The FP first seems like the right choice, as it'll let me grow and start whipping and I don't NEED the gold yet. Plus I don't want to work the gold at size 1 because, duh.

[mackoti]

I see so many forests and you took the monarchy aproach altought i think you'll not use hereditary rules for 20 turns afetr you get, because a city its growing faster if its smaller and 2 or 3 cotages/city are more then enough for a very long time.