[SPOILERS]The 3 Muscateers playing Ragnar of Rome!

[Catwalk]

t7 report

Screenshots!!!
Demos

Capital

Overview + tentative dotmap

One problem with the dotmap is that I fail to grab the SW crabs, and I might run out of good options to settle by it. I still like the pig site as our first expansion, the lake tile will provide a good early cottage alternative once it reaches size 2. I might even push the red dot NE and cram the cities real tight, if we're going to push this cottage economy to the max. We still haven't seen any luxury resources, so we should probably assume minimal happiness early on.

[spacetyrantxenu]

I went ahead and played for you, it was just moving a warrior and pressing enter. The worker finished at end of turn and the save is on to Xenon.

I want to spam cottage all over this map. Next up, move to the corn and farm the next turn. Too bad the worker can't spend a turn on a road instead of wasting the whole turn moving.

[spacetyrantxenu]

For next turn we can move the worker 1W and farm/cancel, then next turn he can start the corn farm. That will keep us from wasting a worker turn if we end up farming the tile 1W of the capital later on. My vote would be to cottage instead but you never know. Warrior SE this turn?

[slowcheetah]

Am I being ousted? Boo! cheetah, what say you?

Based on the most recent picture looks like it's already happened . Better attempt to be useful so the new 'dictator' doesn't put me to death.

So to city sites, I personally would put a city 1N of Catwalks red dot it gives little cross access to the floodplain, can share the capitals corn and gains rice access making it an overall stronger city (which we want for our first few expansions). 1N also allows for a potential pigs, crabs filler city later on. It'll probably become a reaasonable secondary commerce city later on (or gp farm if we've found nowhere else?)

Pigs city has some reasonable early hammer potential, probably is better as a second ciy because we'll need production at that point. When are we getting BW? We could maybe chop out a quick settler in Pigs 'r us, while the capital works on what cottages it has?

[Catwalk]

et tu slowcheetah

The grand vision behind red dot is that it doesn't settle on a river tile that we can use for a nice cottage later on. And it's mostly a filler city. I'd be a little concerned about settling your red dot first, mainly because its only good tile for the foreseeable future is a tile that we're already putting to good use in the capital. It's nice to have a developed tile instantly, but I would like our first expansion to have at least one good non-borrowed tile in the inner circle. Flood plains is nice, but I'd like to have more than that. I'm hopeful that we'll find another resource down by the corn. If not, I still think the pigs are our best early expansion. Being able to share a rivered mine with it isn't bad either.

[slowcheetah]

Definitely disagree on red being a filler city, with access to corn, rice (is the rice wet?) and crabs, a floodplain and 6 other grassland tiles (which would end up being its property). The loss of rice and floodplain is a lot more damaging to the cities potential than a loss of that extra commerce on the ground. I probably concur that the pigs would be a better and more productive early settle (mines and more forests). But red dot should definitely not be discounted as just a filler city. It's got waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much food for that.

[Sian]

(is the rice wet?)

no

[Catwalk]

I referred to my red dot, which only contributes flood plains and clams in addition to stealing corn. But yeah, filler city was putting it too harshly. On a side note, we still haven't seen any luxury resources. Reminds me of the Deity games I'm playing lately, I've been so starved for happiness that I've switched Pacal with Hannibal just to survive economically early on.

[slowcheetah]

Cheers Sian

I referred to my red dot, which only contributes flood plains and clams in addition to stealing corn. But yeah, filler city was putting it too harshly. On a side note, we still haven't seen any luxury resources. Reminds me of the Deity games I'm playing lately, I've been so starved for happiness that I've switched Pacal with Hannibal just to survive economically early on.

I may have decided that I didn't like your red dot and ignored it existed. You know censoring away the previous regime and whatnot :neenernee

Yeah the happiness definitely looks crunched, we'll either need to assume that quick access to bacon will please our people (honestly, why wouldn't it?) or prioritise Monarchy.

[Catwalk]

What sucks more is that the Financial grassland cottage plan relies fairly heavily on high happy caps. Not complaining about the map btw, this should be an interesting challenge.