[LURKERS] Why has nobody started this thread so far?

[Commodore]

Are you certain of this? Pretty sure I have seen barb archers without having Archery myself.

If the difficulty is set high enough that all AI civilizations start with Archery, then the barbarian civilization will also start with Archery.

[Charriu]

I will give it a deep dive into the code for barbs teching and spawning units.

[AutomatedTeller]

All civs have to have a tech for the barbs to gain it; spears require Hunting and copper, not actually Bronze Working.

Does that mean there has to be copper in the cross of a barb city?  cause I know I've seen spears well before a barb could possibly have improved it.

[Commodore]

All civs have to have a tech for the barbs to gain it; spears require Hunting and copper, not actually Bronze Working.

Does that mean there has to be copper in the cross of a barb city?  cause I know I've seen spears well before a barb could possibly have improved it.

Barbs spawn their units without metal prereqs.

[Charriu]

You can find some answers here: Tech requirements for barb spawning

[Thoth]

All civs have to have a tech for the barbs to gain it; spears require Hunting and copper, not actually Bronze Working.

Does that mean there has to be copper in the cross of a barb city?  cause I know I've seen spears well before a barb could possibly have improved it.

Barb cities need metal to produce metal units but the map spawned ones just need the barbs to have the right tech.

[Charriu]

All civs have to have a tech for the barbs to gain it; spears require Hunting and copper, not actually Bronze Working.

Does that mean there has to be copper in the cross of a barb city?  cause I know I've seen spears well before a barb could possibly have improved it.

Barb cities need metal to produce metal units but the map spawned ones just need the barbs to have the right tech.

This is correct

[Commodore]

Three cheers for Naufragar's defense there, always hate having to do the worker defense but I think he's not entirely out of this duel (alas, he's quite out of this wider game however).

[civac2]

Would it be OK for me to sub in for nafraugar? I'm familiar with almost all of the PB54 reports. Scooter didn't write enough for that to make a difference in his case though.

[Hitru]

As long as you get clear directions from Nauf and play along those it should be fine