October 19th, 2012, 18:34
(This post was last modified: October 19th, 2012, 18:49 by Sareln.)
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Settings:
From Pindicator's post in the overall tech thread.
Map
Note: Let's keep the maps between the two games synchronized, so talk about that in the overall thread.- Snakey archipelago similar to pbem17 (but not duplicate of)
- Make naval strategy as important as land strategy
- Enough land that Astronomy is not the One Right Choice
- Land connection between all starting capitals? (I'm unsure on this but someone told me they prefer it)
Diplomacy (Need Votes/Comments: Fintourist, Viqsi, TheHumanHydra)
Other Bans & Settings (Need Votes/Comments: All)- Leader / Civ / Wonder bans to be determined by map maker. Map Maker needs to weigh the water-based civs & civics & wonders; would be nice for them to get a lot of input on this with the map thread.
- Map size - lots of land to expand to or relatively cramped? I think i would like land to expand, but capital's close enough that you can have early game wars.
- Difficulty - any strong opinions here? Prince is probably fine, maybe monarch if we don't have a toroid.
Draft leaders / civs from what is remaining
- No Nukes
- No War Elephants
- Spies? I think these get banned too
- No Huts
- No Events
- Played on BtS (no RBMod this game)
Anything else need banning?
Does anybody want to propose a different method for picking & restricting leaders/civs/wonders than the draft & mapmaker choice?
Also, what does everyone think about starting every civ with a scout? That way we don't have any early game losses do to lucky scouting but we still preserve the choice between warriors or workers to start.
Also, some of these settings don't have to be exact between vet & green games. But it may help to align it for simplicity.
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October 19th, 2012, 19:19
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I wouldn't mind everyone starting with a scout instead of a warrior. Difficulty, map size, civ/wonder bans, I'd go with what the map maker feels is best.
October 19th, 2012, 20:18
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Map: What's described sounds good to me.
Diplomacy: If AI diplo is what it sounds like it is, I'm not terribly fond of the idea - I like being able to talk with folks. Full is good. Public-only or similar also works. But I don't like closing down the ability to talk to people. 
Other Bans & Settings: No strong opinions one way or the other, really.
October 19th, 2012, 23:07
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I'm fine with all the settings mentioned above, but I would like to cast my vote against AI diplomacy, and in favour of Public diplomacy.
October 21st, 2012, 12:14
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(October 19th, 2012, 23:07)TheHumanHydra Wrote: I'm fine with all the settings mentioned above, but I would like to cast my vote against AI diplomacy, and in favour of Public diplomacy.
Well I would prefer AI diplo, Viqsi and TheHumanHydra, is this for you a definitive no-go?
October 21st, 2012, 12:16
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And what do you think about if we follow the vets ruleset discussion, wait until they have found consensus and use it as a starting point for us. I think they will do the discussion faster and have good points regarding fairness and what settings are fun to play with.
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October 21st, 2012, 12:33
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(October 21st, 2012, 12:14)Fintourist Wrote: Well I would prefer AI diplo, Viqsi and TheHumanHydra, is this for you a definitive no-go?
No, no, of course not. And using the vets' choices as a baseline sounds reasonable to me.
October 21st, 2012, 12:58
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Decent suggestion Fintourist. Head's up I'm going to be w/ Sporadic Internet connection the next 3 days. Supposedly there's a coffee shot nearby that I can use, but I won't know 'till I get there.
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October 21st, 2012, 13:08
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(October 21st, 2012, 12:58)Sareln Wrote: Decent suggestion Fintourist. Head's up I'm going to be w/ Sporadic Internet connection the next 3 days. Supposedly there's a coffee shot nearby that I can use, but I won't know 'till I get there.
No problem. Let's keep posting ideas and get this thing really going when you are back.
October 21st, 2012, 17:34
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(October 21st, 2012, 12:14)Fintourist Wrote: (October 19th, 2012, 23:07)TheHumanHydra Wrote: I'm fine with all the settings mentioned above, but I would like to cast my vote against AI diplomacy, and in favour of Public diplomacy.
Well I would prefer AI diplo, Viqsi and TheHumanHydra, is this for you a definitive no-go?
It's not a deal-breaker per se. I just find CTON kind of off-putting.
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