--Dogpilers click here-- (PB7 Player Communication Thread)

[spacetyrantxenu]

Man all this discution in AW are worst than what LP its acused.Looks like its always war for some and diplomacy for others.I hate this thread.

I agree with Mackoti on this one. Everyone, grab a dance partner and start dancing! AW is much more fun when you're at war.

[pindicator]

Hey sunrise, I dunno, maybe I was overreacting. You did better than me when you walked away and let things cool down before posting, so I've tried to return the favor.

I don't want to go "quote->counter-point" because I think that comes off as very aggressive, but I guess here are some thoughts...

That was my first draft to yesterday's post, which I'm glad I deleted

I guess you've been burned in these kinds of talks before? For me, it isn't even so much where you put the city. It's was the whole charade of "let's talk" and then settling anyway. If you would have just planted the thing without asking to talk about stuff I probably wouldn't have cared. Instead, what am I supposed to think next time you want to discuss something?

And how far do you think Thwomp is from my capital? Here's a hint: how close is your latest city from your capital? I get the impression you think I've pink-dotted you, when that is not the case.

I'm going to skip the demo counter-points cause we can both talk circles about how much better the other person is doing...

Look, we're both working with very incomplete information so we both don't know the full situation. So I tried to communicate openly before in the interest of relatively friendly relations. And you're exactly right about us fighting: it wouldn't benefit either of us, since we've both got strong civs on other borders and strong militaries/good positions.

So, in the interest of moving forward, what do you say to the following:

1) Stop ducking you scout in and out to spy on Thwomp. It's annoying and I'm likely to pop him, which would just up the tension. Either park him on my border and let me put a sentry in the area so I can spy into your cities as well, or get him out of there.
2) There's a top 1/3 player in the area that you've somehow missed contact with. I dont' know the exact route, but I do know enough guide you to them. I notice you even have a scout handy for such a trip . I'd ask for some screenshots in return, both for my knowledge and to help guide you.

[sunrise089]

@pindicator - That's fair. Give me instructions for the scout next turn and I'll move him away.

[pindicator]

@pindicator - That's fair. Give me instructions for the scout next turn and I'll move him away.

You'll want to move him to your newest city first -- the one by the cow -- to its eastern borders. I think you can already see the mountain peaks that you want to go north of. I don't know the exact best route but you'll want to send him east, along the northern edge of those peaks.

After you've got 3 turns east of your city, post a screenshot of your location and I'll guide you from there.

[Ichabod]

Man all this discution in AW are worst than what LP its acused.Looks like its always war for some and diplomacy for others.I hate this thread.

Start eating...

[HitAnyKey]

plako, please explain to me how putting an additional chariot into that jungle and building a road right through it respects the current agreement we had about our borders. You said you simply needed to get that jungle chopped, which is perfectly fine with me. What is not fine, is you building a road through it and putting a chariot next to my farm. You don't need a road in order to chop away that jungle.

[Lewwyn]

Hey Ichabod, looked at it and you're right it isn't south of my city. It is 2 tiles SW of it though. That gives you a corner into my city? I seriously doubt I'm going to be cool with that. I mean, how much do you need the dyes? I have exactly 0 happy resources hooked up.

I'm tired, trying to be nice because I'd rather have a calm border with you so I can hunt LP but you settling a city right on my border like that is gonna take military priority. Settle it if you want, but you're gonna have waves upon waves of units hitting, pillaging choking that shit. You'll never clear the jungle and the city will only be a drain on your resources. I probably won't even attempt to take it because of your stupid skirmishers. If that sounds appealing to you, then please settle away, if you can even reach the city site.

[Lewwyn]

One other thing Ichabod, if you don't settle it, I won't. I know that's not feasible for the entirety of the game, but it gives us time to discuss a more permanent solution. And I mean, I could have pillaged your iron mine but I didn't and I left your borders. Acts of good faith or an elaborate and stupid fail trap? You decide.

[Ichabod]

Hey Ichabod, looked at it and you're right it isn't south of my city. It is 2 tiles SW of it though. That gives you a corner into my city? I seriously doubt I'm going to be cool with that. I mean, how much do you need the dyes? I have exactly 0 happy resources hooked up.

I'm tired, trying to be nice because I'd rather have a calm border with you so I can hunt LP but you settling a city right on my border like that is gonna take military priority. Settle it if you want, but you're gonna have waves upon waves of units hitting, pillaging choking that shit. You'll never clear the jungle and the city will only be a drain on your resources. I probably won't even attempt to take it because of your stupid skirmishers. If that sounds appealing to you, then please settle away, if you can even reach the city site.

Good morning to you too, Lewwyn.

Well, you can rest assure that I won't settle a city 2SW of yours, because that's impossible with the game mechanics, right? So you are safe there, I believe. I guess you meant 3S2W or something.

Anyway, I would like a city that get at least one of those dyes. If not 1SE of the bananas, I could do 1S of the bananas. I'd get 1 dye at least. What do you think?

Either way, do as you like. I don't care for this game enough to feel threatened by its imminent ruin. If you want to pillage my tiles, go ahead. I'll respond the best way I can. I appreciate you haven't pillaged Greed, but you may see that I whipped a spear there, because I really don't want to survive on favors. But if you want to attack another player rather than me, of course I'd be happy.

[Lewwyn]

I didn't see the spear but assumed one was coming.

I also have less interest. You can settle 1S of the bananas to grab a dye I think. I need to check and make sure that isn't militarily threatening, but I think that's fine actually.

By 2SW I think I meant that you'd control that tile on the diagonal of my city, which is what I don't want. SO again I need to go back and check, but again I'd rather have a nice safe border.