[SPOILERS] PB20 Lurker Thread of Perfect Hindsight

[Bobchillingworth]

Well, this is certainly entertaining, in a "cheap drama that I should be ashamed for enjoying" way.


People not playing / admining this game ought to keep out of the tech thread, though. Lurkers getting involved in player disputes never goes well.

[suttree]

It depends on what the definition of is is.

Illud quod primo cadit sub apprehensione est ens, cuius intellectus includitur in omnibus, quaecumque quis apprehendit

[Borsche]

When LP and Seven have a smug-off, everyone loses.

Y'know, usually I feel this way but I found this particular one strangely entertaining.

Okay, this has been a collection of great upon great. First, we have:

In the future when you've broken the rules, I think you should consider 1) Apologizing, 2) Thanking the person who pointed it out (even if they were relatively critical), 3) Offering to make it better somehow, 4) Indicating that you understand the rule and won't break it again, and 5) Talking to the people you are playing the game with rather than a lurker whose opinion is not as directly important. The focus on proving that Krill is wrong, instead of on trying to make sure that the other players are satisfied and that the game is running fairly, is unbecoming.

I feel like I have to say something here. Can you please not talk down to an another player, especially one that's been cornered like a rat, like they're a fucking 4-year old child? Aggression and drama, yada yada yada, par for course, thats one thing, but this was completely disgusting. It made my skin crawl to read this post.

Parkin - GG, sorry it had to end like this.

LEAVE BRITNEY PARKIN ALONE!

Heh. Although Seven is also a condescending ass, so this is just delicious all around.

If you hate everyone here, why do you even post.

[Commodore]

Heh. Although Seven is also a condescending ass, so this is just delicious all around.

If you hate everyone here, why do you even post.

My antipathy is limited to just a couple of the pompous ones...like I said, lovely to see it all concentrated.

German's perspective is understandable, but he's wrong about Parkin.

[spacetyrantxenu]

Illud quod primo cadit sub apprehensione est ens, cuius intellectus includitur in omnibus, quaecumque quis apprehendit

I was going more for Bill Clinton than St. Thomas Aquinas. But

Et ideo primum principium indemonstrabile est quod non est simul affirmare et negare, quod fundatur supra rationem entis et non entis, et super hoc principio omnia alia fundantur.

Being, non-being. Is, is.

[suttree]

I don't know who this Thomas Aquinas guy is, I just asked for some text from http://www.pastaipsum.com/, turned on random profanity, and that's what I got

[Borsche]

Heh. Although Seven is also a condescending ass, so this is just delicious all around.

If you hate everyone here, why do you even post.

My antipathy is limited to just a couple of the pompous ones...like I said, lovely to see it all concentrated.

German's perspective is understandable, but he's wrong about Parkin.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAg7AmyG2Ys

[MJW (ya that one)]

There are very simple reasons why people still play with LP. For starters LP beat Sullla (I agree with you Krill that doesn't mean much but other people think so) so he is one of the best players. This causes a problem if you want to blackball him as people cannot take seriously a game without one of the best players. A good example is no-one caring about ICGA after DQing Rybka and not allowing Houdini and Stockfish. Other reason is LP said he's changed. So if you don't play with him you are calling him a liar to his face without any real proof. Some people aren't willing to bit that bullet.

I say that the biggest reason is stopping someone from signing up for a game is an affirmative action. This forces someone to personally attack LP and people to join the attacker. If you don't want to play with someone you are very hostile to them and in this context that implies that they are a bad person. What happens in CIV is not important so you cannot get hostile to that and that leaves LP as your only target. I remember when Sullla was talking about LP and people instantly called him out for attacking him when Sullla didn't mean that.

BtW, why did you pluralize , Krill? I'm just curious...

[NobleHelium]

There are very simple reasons why people still play with LP. For starters LP beat Sullla (I agree with you Krill that doesn't mean much but other people think so) so he is one of the best players. This causes a problem if you want to blackball him as people cannot take seriously a game without one of the best players. A good example is no-one caring about ICGA after DQing Rybka and not allowing Houdini and Stockfish.

This is a laughable analogy. No game on RB has all the best players. Clearly no game can be taken seriously then.

[Gaspar]

While your second point is correct in explaining why he gets in games, MJW, your first point is the most inane thing I've read in a while.

If we believe someone is a serial cheater - their accomplishments, regardless of how impressive or not are completely irrelevant and have no bearing on how "serious" a competition any game is. Was the Tour de France somehow "not serious" because Lance Armstrong wasn't in it, etc etc etc.

Not to mention, I'm not entirely sure too many people take these games seriously in the way you're suggesting. While all the players want to win and some try very hard to accomplish that, there isn't an official ladder or HALL OF CHAMPIONS or something. I doubt too many people could tell you who has won the most games and how many that is, etc.

And lastly, this wasn't really supposed to be a super-serious game to begin with. The primary purpose was to give a more rigorous test to the ToW mod.