RB Civ6 Epic 1: The Honorable Wonderful French

[Sullla]

Oledavy: yes, if someone else declares war you are entitled to defend yourself. If you wish to retaliate by pillaging tiles, that's fair game. Capturing cities is also allowed, albeit at the scoring penalty.

Pharmboy_Andy: the goal of the game is to use wonders to achieve a cultural victory instead of the traditional Theatre districts. Since I don't want this to turn into a game of who can mix/max capturing cities with Theatre districts for maximum scoring points, I'll add an additional scoring penalty for capturing cities with Theatre districts intact. We can't use a rule of "must raze all cities with Theatre districts" because capital cities can't be razed. With this additional scoring penalty, you're free to do whatever you want with a captured city once you have it.

Pindicator: foreign trade routes that provide culture are also not allowed. Again, the idea is to get culture from wonders and chateaus.

REM: a luxury resource that provides culture as part of its tile yield is OK. Culture-based pantheons are not, as I stated in the original post.

All good questions. I will edit the first post again with these responses. Thanks.

[Athmos]

Hum, would one be able to build or buy buildings in captured theater districts ?

[ReallyEvilMuffin]

It would give access to building bolshi and broadway too, depends if they are actually banned or only unavailable. I did open this up but didn't start playing because some rules are up in the air still.


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[Athmos]

Since the wonder needing a theater are not specifically forbidden, I would think it's fair game to build them beside a captured theater.

On the other hand, there is this penalty :

-10 points: EACH foreign city captured with a Theatre district present. If you think it's worth the penalty, you can feel free to use the Theatre district as desired afterwards.

which mean we can keep the theater and keep the culture from it in this case, but since we can't build culture producing building (monuments...), do that mean we can't build additional buildings on a captured theater ?
I would say we can't, but since the intention is to prevent intentional milking, maybe it's best to just roll with it (or risk having situation where the player wait for the AI to build a museum before capturing or whatever). In any case, I'd rather have it specifically stated.

I have started playing the game, I have no idea if what I'm trying to do is going to work, but I'm having a blat so far ! Thanks Sulla :-)

[Sullla]

As I wrote before, you are free to use a captured Theatre district as desired: add buildings, wonders, whatever. That includes Broadway and Bolshoi.

I'm not sure that you guys are quite grasping the spirit behind this game, however. The setup is supposed to be about building wonders and winning a culture victory via wonder tourism. The variant is not supposed to be about finding rules loopholes to allow ways to use Theatre districts. Much as we ask players in our Multiplayer games to be good sports when the turn split rules might not be completely clear, we ask players in this game to use their best judgment in this game. I'm happy to keep answering questions, but these last few inquiries are getting a bit far afield of where I intended the game to go. Thanks.

[Athmos]

Sure Sulla. Actually I reread the rules to make sure I wouldn't do something forbidden by mistake after playing the first turns, and I was surprised that we were even allowed to capture theaters.
Since you mentioned it, I wanted to have this clarified as early as possible.

I am already committed in my game to some plays that are quite new to me (and possibly unworkable, I'm not as familiar as I probably should with tourism mechanisms) , and none of it revolves around capturing theaters ;-).

Who knows what might happen though ? Might as well be as explicit as possible.

[Ranamar]

This seems sort of against the spirit also, but... do wonders captured from other players count as points? ... or do we have to build them ourselves?

[pindicator]

Well, now I'm wondering if my idea is against the spirit of the ruleset (though it is not forbidden). I'm also not convinced it's actually going to be good either so we'll all just have to wait until reporting day

[ReallyEvilMuffin]

This seems sort of against the spirit also, but... do wonders captured from other players count as points?  ... or do we have to build them ourselves?

It does specifically state constructed so guessing no.

[Sullla]

No, captured wonders do not count for scoring purposes.