RBP3 [SPOILERS] - Friendly Kittens (Ragnar of Maya)

[Maniac Marshall]

@banshee - The maint for that city is 2.91. the gold will eventually pay for it by itself.

[Cull]

We are pretty sure that Krill has Oracled SOMETHING, which at this point, seems to be going Alphabet. Does anybody consider Monarchy? I know that some teams joined Krill's little super-alliance just for Alphabet, but its possible he's lying, and that Alphabet will be via fast self teching, with an pretty much unlimited happy cap, that could be totally wrong. (probably)

We'll see, and I'm going to watch the event log.

Question to Ref/MM and lurkers: If you haven't offically seen Krill,can you still see what he revolts to? I think no, but I'm hoping yes.

[Maniac Marshall]

I'm not sure he's oracled anything yet, but he has the tech to do it now it appears. It'll happen any turn.

You can't "see" it as a message, no. He's spiritual as well, so he doesn't have to suffer anarchy.

[Cull]

Has anyone seen Exploit's post in the IT thread for RBP3. It's AMUSING, to say the least. You mean Incan, one of our more closer allies attacking Aztec, a major player in the "Hydra" has NOTHING to do with you. What I understand is that you are right next to India which is next to Aztec/Incan which is next to Incan/Aztec, so even without the whole 2 major alliances thing, it STILL affects you.

/end mini-rant

[Maniac Marshall]

Eh, I have enough to worry about without worrying about that. Cull, if you're still here can you hop onto chat for just a second? I want to ask you something.

[RefSteel]

My second correction was half wrong in my Krill post: He gets the first border pop at city 2 the turn after founding Hinduism (culture from holy city is applied on the same turn it's founded). So he got 20-turn-delay land points THIS turn. He did NOT land the Oracle yet. (That would be 16 points).

That's next turn or the turn after, I'll bet. And he's oracling Alphabet, guaranteed. This turn, he got a 12-point increase, and that means in addition to the land points, he landed a tech. That'll be writing. Not as elegant as I hoped he'd make it (it would have been so beautiful to see a 28-point score increase on civstats, followed in rapid fire on the same turn by the further 6-point increases we'll see after he does land oracle), but in spite of hating what he and his allies have done to RBP3, I tip my hat. Krill, if you ever read this after the game is over: Well played.

[Maniac Marshall]

Well, I went to bed last night with the intention of ending our turn, but when I woke up this morning there were 4 minutes left on the clock... didn't see the point of racing to beat the timer at that point. Anyhow... Exploit was on and contacted me about making the move and other stuff. Since he'd agreed via email while I was asleep that we should not attack the suspected Indian city unless we had overwhelming odds to raze it, and since he was surprised we did not see Indian boarders, I aggreed to move the chariot so that we could see over the lake, and...



We have since moved 1W. There is a hill 2SW from there that we can use to see the city. More shortly, chatting with Exploit.

[RefSteel]

While we're here: Microplan anyone? I don't think this is what we'll actually do - partly because I'm hoping we'll get Alpha, Hunting, and IW from our allies at some point, and those could change these plans significantly. If we can actually have all three by turn 69 (might want to delay hunting, actually, even though that's insane) we might be able to hook up the silver soon enough to seriously revise this plan. It's also ... uh ... kinda short on military. Some might regard this as ... a problem. It's also not nearly as good for our civ's development in the long term as the plan that got us Math on T77. This might be better overall though because of the extra two turns of Math for our friends.

PLEASE DON'T JUST FOLLOW THIS MICROPLAN WITHOUT CONSIDERING THE STRATEGIC ALTERNATIVES! IT MIGHT BE BETTER TO ASSIGN THE WORKERS DIFFERENTLY EVEN ON T59!!!

All that said...

WARNING: MASSIVE WALL OF POSSIBLY SUB-OPTIMAL MICROTEXT AHEAD! (Now with twice the misspellings and oversights!)
(No, I haven't gotten nearly enough sleep lately; why do you ask?)



T59: Fierias regrows to size 3 and works corn+sheep+mine. Pasture complete; Pride Rock works farm+cows. Marie and Berlioz cottage. LEAVE RESEARCH RATE AT 0%!

T60: Chmeee moves 1NE-1E-1SE to a river plains road. Toulouse moves 1E-1SE to a river grassland. Marie moves 1N to a river grassland and roads; road complete. Berlioz's cottage complete; Temminck works cottage.

T61: Chariot2 complete at Fierias as it grows to size 4; start Worker, working corn+sheep+mine+mine. Pride Rock works cow+horse. Jasana moves into Fierias. New chariot moves 2SW-1S to the floodplains cottage. Chmeee moves 1S to a river grassland, cottages, and CANCELS orders. Toulouse moves 1S to the copper, roads, and CANCELS orders. Marie moves 1NE to a river grassland, cottages, and CANCELS orders. Berlioz moves 1N-1NE to Marie's river grassland, cottages, and CANCELS orders.

T62: Pride Rock grows to size 3 and works cow+horse+farm. Chmeee moves 2S to a floodplain and cottages (cancel orders each turn so as to be able to evacuate in an emergency). Toulouse moves 1SE to the same floodplains and cottages (cancel orders each turn for the same reason). Marie and Berlioz move 1E to another river grassland and cottage. Chariot2 sticks around the south for defense, bearing in mind it'll have to play sentry (or defense) for the gold tile in a couple of turns.

T63: Temminck grows to size 2 and works copper + cottage. Marie and Berlioz complete their cottage. Fierias works corn+sheep+mine+cottage. Increase research rate to 100%. And pin it there.

T64: Chmeee completes his cottage; Temminck works cottage+cottage. The chariot makes sure the coast is clear and/or covers the gold, and Toulouse moves 2W to the gold tile! Marie and Berlioz moves 1W to a pre-cottaged river grassland and cottage; cottage complete.

T65: Chmeee moves 1W and cottages (canceling each turn as above). Toulouse roads (canceling each turn as above). Marie and Berlioz move 1SW-1S to a (pre-roaded) floodplain cottage, and road; road complete.

T66: Worker5 complete at Fierias; start Warrior, working corn+sheep+cottage+cottage. Chmeee puts another turn into a cottage, then CANCELS orders. (This is important! Cancel even if he's known to be in no danger!) Marie and Berlioz move 1SW to a river grassland, cottage, and CANCEL orders. Worker5 is named Duchess, moves 2SW to a river grassland, cottages, and CANCELS orders.

T67: Granary complete at Pride Rock (not the optimal timing, but what can you do?) - resume Barracks. Chmeee moves 1N to the copper tile and roads; road complete. Toulouse completes his road. Marie and Berlioz moves 1S-1SW to a pre-cottaged floodplains, cottage, and CANCEL orders (again, even if they're in no danger). Duchess moves 1S-1SW to a pre-cottaged river grassland and cottages; cottage complete. Pride Rock works cow+horse+(grass)cottage.

T68: Writing hits! Start Mathematics! Fierias grows to size 5. Pride Rock grows to size 4. Temminck grows to size 3. Temminck's second-ring borders pop. Chmeee moves 1SW to the gold tile and mines. Toulouse mines. Marie and Berlioz move 1N-1SW to the gold tile and mine. Duchess moves 2SW to the gold tile and mines. Mine complete! Fierias works corn+sheep+mine+cottage+cottage. Pride Rock works cow+horse+farm+(grass)cottage. Temminck works (fp)cottage+(fp)cottage+GOLDMINE!!! Leave research rate at 100%!

T69: Chmeee moves 1E to pre-cottaged floodplain and cottages; cottage complete. Toulouse and Marie move 1NE-1N to a river grassland, cottage, and CANCEL orders. Berlioz and Duchess move 1NE-1N to the same river grassland and road; road complete. Chariot2 moves 2NE-1N to a river plains tile if no threats are apparent. Pride Rock works cow+horse+cottage+cottage. Temminck works (southern)cottage+(southern)cottage+goldmine.

T70: Our first (shared floodplain) cottage becomes a Hamlet! Barracks complete at Pride Rock; start Axeman. Chmeee moves 1E to another floodplains cottage, roads, and CANCELS orders. Toulouse cottages. Marie, Berlioz, and Duchess move 1N to the floodplains farm, and road; road complete.

T71: Warrior5 complete at Fierias as it grows to size 6; start Settler, working corn+sheep+mine+mine+cottage+cottage. Warrior5 is named Miamar and moves 2SW to a river grassland. Chmeee moves 1E to a river plains tile, roads, and CANCELS orders. Toulouse completes his cottage. Marie move 2NE to a river grass hill. Berlioz and Duchess move 1E-1NE to Miamar's river grassland, cottage, and CANCEL orders. Pride Rock works cow+hamlet+cottage+cottage.

T72: Miamar moves 1SW to a river plains road. Chmeee moves 1NE to a floodplain, cottages, and CANCELS orders. Toulouse moves 1NE to Miamar's river plains road, irrigates, and CANCELS orders. Marie roads. Berlioz moves 2NE-1E to a river grass forest. Duchess moves 1NE-2E to another river grass forest.

T73: Pride Rock grows to size 5. Our second cottage (1S of Fierias) becomes a hamlet! Miamar moves 1NW to Pride Rock and fortifies. Chmeee cottages and CANCELS orders again. Toulouse moves 1NE to a pre-cottaged river grassland and cottages; cottage complete. Marie and Berlioz chop. Duchess completes her road. Fierias starts Barracks (Settler on hold). Pride Rock works horse+hamlet+cottage+cottage+cottage.

T74: A third cottage (1S of Temminck) becomes a hamlet! Chmeee cottages and CANCELS orders again. Toulouse moves 1N to Marie's river grass hill and mines. Marie mines.

T75: Math hits!!! Next tech TBD. Chmeee cottages and CANCELS orders again. (NOTE: ORDER OF ACTION IS IMPORTANT! Toulouse and Marie complete their mine. Berlioz and Duchess complete their (math-boosted!) chops. Reduce research rate to 0%. Settler due next turn, and will plant on T78.


So, what do you think?

[Maniac Marshall]

Sent this to India.

Greetings oh people of India. Salthi, our drunken charioteer, has noticed your cute little civilization. Are you good dj's. Do you play classic rock, or do you play crap like Brittney and Hanna Montana or... god forbid... country? Surely Indian's wouldn't play cowboy music?

Anyway, he was thinking of dropping by to have a look for himself, but we convinced him not to. After all, we wouldn't want to commit a diplomatic faux-paw on first contact now would we?

We've been wandering the world in search of gourmet mice, but so far, haven't found anyone who claims to have some? Do you? If so, we'd really like to be friends. We've recently acquired some cows, and would be willing to trade milk (both whole and 2%) if this is agreeable to you. Let us know at your earliest conveniece. In the meantime...

Have a Mice Day!

Will look over the micro and post the days chats in about 6hrs. gotta run.

[RefSteel]

I recorded something incorrectly on the microplan above. Will try to update before I have to leave; have to detect the source of the problem first.

EDIT: Problem was tiles worked T62. Fixed.