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Archduke and Emperor K team thread

First knight complete. More troops just moving, any where in peticular you want the soldiers. I will need to upgrade what I can soon. 11 turns until siege tactics, then cossack tech. Any way you can help me after square riggiing?
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Will analyze the situation when I open the save.

I can only boost the techs for you, I think I finished siege tactics.

Maybe we should ask Chevalier and Woden for money if they don´t want to help otherwise.

I still think this war is a loosing proposition for us, but hey what can you do.
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Yes lets ask for money. I doubt they will give it to us though. This is the perfect time, and they now have easy access to attack them, so I wonder if they will declare on them in the near future. If vet/vet takes us out there are done for I would think.

Siege Tactics is not boosted, 11 turns for me. I do have 10 cities so I am sneaking in some infrastructure. My main cities are pumping out units.
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Ok, I need to walk with my son. Until I am back:

Emperor K, decision time.

We have two offers:

Team vet/vet offers a friggin alliance. Seems our paniced buildup netted results.

   

And also Team Woden/Chevalier wants our help in 15 turns. Seeing the countless size 1 cities and their abysmal buildup we would take the brunt of the fight.

   

Team Vet/Vet however is stronger and more suspectible to win by science.

Team Woden/Chev has the VA.

So what to do.

I closed the game and will play my turn after we conferred.

What a conincidence to have those two offers the same turn. crazyeye
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I think allie with team vet, and focus on the easier target. I think it will be easier on the fact that a land war is more of a possibility with them. I have no coastal citys on that side.

If we can get enough cities this game may come down to a science race and I think we can win long term. China has like 30Icon_Science, my culture continues to grow, and will considerable as time goes on.
There is good Nubian land to grab, and I can settle those islands in the near future. Plus I would think most of there troops are still in old Kongo territory.

I have no navy to defend against that invasion, and we will not get the seas back. Nubia also took my settle spot and kept me boxed into half my empire being tundra cities.

The sleeping Giant has awoken! Time for War!
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Do you think we can beat the vet/vet in a science race? Would be cool if we catch up and get nukes and just back stab them later. If we can ya know.
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My biggest issue with going against vet/vet is that I do not think That chev and woden will help us at all. If we can take out china though, that would be the better move, yet I think we have a better chance of victory by getting more land and winning long term.

Summarize
war against team vet/vet, Woden and Chev come out on top, I don't see how we would gain more, maybe if we completely took out the rich china lands?
war against Woden and Chev, gives us a chance to get much better cities than team vet/vet will get.

That is just my thinking.
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So, it seems that we have somehow become the deciding factor here.

Do we ally team vet/vet and go after the weakest link, hoping we come out of top.
Or do we stay allied with Woden/Chev and go after the yield leader.

From an emotional standpoint we have no quarrel with team vet/vet, they respected our borders, quite in contrast to the aggressive settling that happened by Nubia and is still happening right now.

W/C (I abbreviate from now on) did a DoF and enabled the China/Rome train towards us in the first place. S/S were happy to murder us when it looked like we were out of money and out of troops.

How is our situation? Basically crap.

Supporting on or the other side is a loosing proposition, they both benefit from the conquests off J/C (Japper Cornflakes) and have more land at their disposal.

But.

Our eastern border sports a strong and dangerous enemy and we are ill equipped to deal with him now.

Our western border has more cities in range for taking, the VA and better spoils.

And we could go on the offensive in 10 turns, not way enough to get a decent navy in the north sea.

Russia is not conquerable by Sea. Nubia is.

So, we will roll the dice and try our best to win, as much as our chance is 10-20%. Our chance being the punching bag for S/S is a 0%, W/C will win that way.

And I am miffed that they used the past 15 turns to settle cities towards us and did not build any serious military.

So, we will ally Rome like you suggested as well.

Priorities.

- The Army is needed in the west.
- My navy will split north and south and go through a founded isthmus city.
- I will conquer Bandar Brunei

   

   

I am sorry to disappoint the lurkers but even it is a snowball chance in hell we need to take the route to victory, not slugfest heaven.
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Yes please take bandar, not in good hands with the Romans, if you want you can gift it to me, there is some turndra so i make use of it.

When did we allie with C/W ? Oh well we going to war with them then?

Confused.
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That was about 20 turns ago. The alliance with C/W.
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