Another thing to consider which me and pindicator have been discussing right now in the chatroom:
From looking at a huge lakes map with 4 teams of 3 and cylindrical world wrap, we are looking at an average of around 20 tiles between starting settlers of different teams.
If in worst case scenario both teams settle their second cities towards each other, that brings the distance between them (when borders pop) to around 10-12 tiles which isn't exactly massive.
We may need 2 war making civs rather than 2 econ ones as that is not a big gap and early mounted warfare is more likely.
From looking at a huge lakes map with 4 teams of 3 and cylindrical world wrap, we are looking at an average of around 20 tiles between starting settlers of different teams.
If in worst case scenario both teams settle their second cities towards each other, that brings the distance between them (when borders pop) to around 10-12 tiles which isn't exactly massive.
We may need 2 war making civs rather than 2 econ ones as that is not a big gap and early mounted warfare is more likely.
"You want to take my city of Troll%ng? Go ahead and try."
