[SPOILERS] FFH II PBEM I Lurker Discussion Thread- No Players Allowed!

[Irgy]

And more to the point, in FFH's DLL or python rather than the standard game. Is the FFH DLL source publicly available? It doesn't seem to be included in the installation.

That is for the record where I was looking in the first place. I kind of mentally included the python part when I said the "xml" was fairly easy to look at - in fact the python is easier if anything. Of course I don't know how to look in the DLL, but the fact that there is a DLL solves the mystery of why I couldn't find it anywhere.

As for the DLL source, it does appear to be available, here.

[Irgy]

Well, thanks to myself finding this:

As for the DLL source, it does appear to be available, here.

I can answer a few questions.

On that note...
Any chance you found evidence that passive XP gain scales with the number of units with the Channeling I/II/III promotions under the player's control, as Selrahc suggested in his thread?

It indeed does not change with the number of units. I don't know where he got this from.

I'm unsure when healing is actually processed in a PBEM. I presume it happens at the start of a players turn? Or does it happen at the end of the set of turns? With medics around then they aren't likely to be doing that much damage to fixed defenses.

T-Hawk was absolutely right, it's at the start of the turn. Along with fortifying, gaining spellcaster xp, and immortal units regaining the immortal promotion, among other things.

And my own question (actually someone else asked it originally but I forget who):

I was trying to work out whether adept xp scales with game speed for example

It does not. What I did discover though that I wasn't aware of was that the chance of gaining new xp goes down based on how much xp the unit has already. The amount of xp the unit has is subtracted from the percentage chance. So an adept maxes out on free xp at 20 (and starts to struggle before that), and an archmage at 90. Or 40 and 100 with potent. Making potent even better really, it's better than double the promotion speed once the adept has a few xp under their belt.

[NobleHelium]

Really. I thought all casters were capped at 100 free exp like heroes.

Assuming Selrahc is wrong about Channeling units buffing each other's experience gain rate, he's probably a victim of human perception. Once he has more units he notices more cases of "unit has gained experience" and draws the errant conclusion that the relationship is more than linear.

Note to Bob: if you're going to propose ridiculous peace terms and hope the opponent will accept them, at least don't be condescending while doing it.

[Darkmantle]

Funnily enough PB is the one that got it right. In his description of Hemah he mentioned that the XP gain rate leveled off.

Ummmmmm so PB exploring the goblin lair again is that a known bug or will it just keep spawning stuff until there is a good result?

[NobleHelium]

The bad/neutralish results will sometimes destroy the lair and sometimes not, AFAIK.

[Darkmantle]

(5:18:29 PM) BobChillingworth: I really don't think they were that bad, language excluded

Really Bob REALLY. Give me a huge expanse of land that you recently conquered including a mana node. Give me one of your main settlements you settled. Give me a long NAP so I can go beat up the one remaining threat to me in the game. Gift me unique battle manas such as entropy(I'll give you something in return okay). You will not found the religion I'm interested in. You will keep these deals secret.

I think Sandover has infected Bob with his Diplomatic style from RBPBEM3.

To an enemy with a proven track record of decisive devastating wars, who is pretty much equal in power to you. Who you really want to sit out while you massacre his friend.

Yeah definitely Sandover.

[Brian Shanahan]

Only difference being Sandover was usually in a position to dictate terms. Bob isn't.

I get the feeling that he may be thinking of combat in SP terms, and not taking the human ability be able to come up with imaginative solutions into account.

[Rowain]

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Yeah definitely Sandover.

Most definitly NOT Sandover. S made huge demands when he had the power to get what he wants nevertheless and b) if he really wanted someone to be on his side he made good offers. Especially if the someone was equal in power.

[v8mark]

I think it's just a classic case of Bob massively overestimating his position. As several people have already said, he seems to be under the impression that a horde of vampires is equivalent to a giant red win button. He really does seem to think he can just win the game by walking into PB's territory.

I must admit, I really want to see the tables turned...

[Darkmantle]

The problem is if PB gets a good chance at hitting Bob's main vamp stack and destroys it then PB could conceviably rampage through half of bob's empire in a matter of turns. Once Bob is sufficiently dismantled then PB might start to think about how fast he could destroy Selrahc, but I suspect would prefer a capitulation victory rather than have to fight that war.

I'm actually leaning towards the tension getting higher and higher as things go on, just so we can have the game continue!