October 24th, 2015, 00:03
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Are the only horses across the strait?
October 24th, 2015, 07:52
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Yes. It's almost as if we're supposed to venture across the water! 
TBS planted his second city this turn after 2pop whipping the Settler.
October 24th, 2015, 22:36
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Actually, it was a 3-pop whip!
I also missed Hinduism being founded (Jowy). I didn't miss this turn when Haram built Stonehenge! Good combo though, he'll have Buddhism Shrined up in no time!
I also got his graphs this turn. The only one of note is this:
I'm not going to pretend that I understand it all, but I'm reasonably certain it means that he doesn't have Bronze Working nd possibly Mining as well! In which case I'm feeling pretty happy about our chances at GLH ... particularly since I think I have a route mapped out to complete it EoT 50.
Here's one of the key components:
One extra commerce this turn actually translates to 2beakers, which gains a turn on Sailing and Masonry. Then it's a matter of optimising build queue and choreographing the Workers. I haven't actually run the plan through the sim yet to check the costs, but everything's looking good.
October 25th, 2015, 00:37
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Dang, a 3-pop whip?? That means his capital was size 6....how the hell did he manage that so quickly? Just building a worker should have prevented that...are you sure it was 3-pop?
Yeah, after seeing Haram went for the Henge, I'm more confident of a GLH gambit. His techs are going to be way off in order to get it, and if you can pull of T50 that's pretty damned good.
October 25th, 2015, 20:15
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Pretty certain yeah, 10pt drop on civstats and I vaguely recall him at size6. I'm guessing he went Worker-first and then farmed a couple of Grasslands.
Oh, it turns out I wasn't being very good at tracking city settling and Toaster was one of the later ones. In fact, Fennbandit & GermanBRick both have their second out.
Speaking of the latter, I met Haram's other neighbour:
He met me last turn with his Scout so he knows that I've met someone else, although he and Haram have not met yet. Also not the world wrap becoming visible; looks like it's three wraps of three. Also if Circumnav is enabled it'll be quite hard to get on your own because of the continuous strip.
October 26th, 2015, 20:24
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Well I discovered last night while running my Sim that my spreadsheet had an error in it and I was gifting myself an extra 30h - likely a hold-over from a badly-identified chop into a Settler. Anyway, my perfect EoT50 GLH build actually had another 2t to run. 
Anyway, a semi-sleepless night of brain churning and I managed to get it back down to EoT51:
I'm not overly happy with it; the chops come in at semi-ragged intervals, no cottages or Granaries, and slightly underdeveloped cities, but I'm going for it!
October 26th, 2015, 22:17
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Good. Even if we miss, fail gold is not a bad thing. And I think we have a pretty good chance. T51 is still damn good.
And the fourth city will be built at the same time?
October 27th, 2015, 08:42
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Yeah, as yet unnamed 4th city founded on t51 - which is really the first time I can get Worker support out there, what with all the chops. Interestingly there's a bit of a dead period for Workers at the moment with no cottages to build, but then it gets crazy again to get the chops out. If we fail late, then the failgold will support the Writing-Currency beeline we'll need with no active cottages. If we fail early then we have more flexibility since Kettles hammers can go into Workers.
After success the plan would be for Kettle to skip a Granary and push out Settlers for the Copper and Gold cities and any needed Workers in between, and then get a Galley out to look at the Horses site.
Oh, We bought a Fridge this turn:
joint 3rd to place our third city, and now leading on crop yield. 
Oh, and I am right in saying that no barb can spawn in that fogged spot 1S of the Gold, right? If so, that's the whole of the South defogged while that Warrior stays in place. 
October 27th, 2015, 09:06
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(October 27th, 2015, 08:42)Dreylin Wrote: Oh, and I am right in saying that no barb can spawn in that fogged spot 1S of the Gold, right?
Yes.
More importantly, why the d in refrigerator ?
October 27th, 2015, 09:25
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That's how they spell it in other countries.  Damn foreigners!
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