[SPOILERS] PB9 Lurker Thread

[Merovech]

FWIW, I think that asking why teching archery when having BW is a bit too much on the side of influencing the game.
Kalin

I did go back and forth a few times on whether asking that was too much.

[Thoth]

Yeah, also a possibility. Though you need to chop one more forest for your plan. Also, I wouldn't whip the worker in my plan on T33, I'd rather chop it to completion on T34. If I'd whip it, you would need even 2 forests more. But I think not whipping is the better choice. You can instead grow to 3 quickly and go on to improve the deer. Capital can work deer + corn + GH-Mine, second city works sheep + copper.

Double worker comes out 10 worker turns ahead of Settler first. Well worth an early forest I'd say.

Both plans are rough and can be improved on (notably the Worker first plan: Ag/pop Bronze from a hut/Wheel/AH gains two worker turns into a road link to city 2 over AH after Ag and costs at most one turn on the Pastured Sheep.) The road connection means the second city provides a TR to and from the capital from the turn of it's founding. 2c per turn is a lot when you are as commerce limited as Jowy is.

Settler before 2nd worker is expensive. Sometimes it's worth it.

But I don't think this is one of these cases.

/armchairquarterback

Best way probably to have capital use corn + some 3yield tile to finish the worker T33, T34. 2nd city grows on sheep. At EOT34 capital has finished 2nd worker and is at 2/24 food. 2nd city is at 10/22. Now 2nd city gets corn for T35 and T36 to grow EOT36. Capital works sheep + deer in that time to be at 12/24 on EOT36. T37+38 it again gets the corn and will grow EOT38. In that time 2nd city can already build a worker with sheep + unimp. copper. On T40 copper will be improved and EOT43 you have your 3rd worker. Capital will start the next settler on T39. T46 you can 1-pop-whip it.

I think we're looking at different second city locations here.

(and double worker gets the third worker down before Settler first does, not to mention the sexyness of city two working a 2f/4h tile 4t after founding. )


Plus the option of super early copper.

Of course, that neglects every form of defense, so you'll probably have to add 2 more turns to the worker, so that you can finish a warrior first. I mean, at least 1 warrior should be built

Yah, a warrior or two at the least need to be worked in there. Then some axes.

[Thoth]

I did go back and forth a few times on whether asking that was too much.

When in doubt....ask the Court of Lurkerdom. Preferably before posting.

Given Jowy's response, it looks like "no harm, no foul", so no worries this time around.

(Jowy's estimates on when he could have the Copper connected otoh..... ).




But, yeah. Your post could have influenced the game. Please be careful when globally lurking and posting in players spoiler threads. "Loose lips sink ships"


When in doubt, please err on the side of caution.

When not in doubt,

please err on the side of caution.

[waterbat]

For me, mero, the fact that there was discussion here about it made a big difference as well. <shrug>

[Thoth]

There was some good discussion about Lurker Behaviour a couple of years ago:

http://realmsbeyond.net/forums/showthread.php?tid=3268

Well worth a (re-)read for all lurkers.

(thanks to T-Hawk for the link)

[Merovech]

For me, mero, the fact that there was discussion here about it made a big difference as well. <shrug>

There wasn't discussion here until after I posted there.

[Lewwyn]

I don't think there was an issue with the question.

[scooter]

I don't think there was an issue with the question.

Me neither.

[NobleHelium]

I would have just asked "Can you explain your rationale for teching Archery?" It would have gathered the same information without being leading in any way or implying any correct course of action.

[NobleHelium]

Wait what? Jowy just revolted to Slavery at size 1? I don't think anyone's ever done that before...