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(July 23rd, 2013, 16:14)Boldly Going Nowhere Wrote: What is WPC's espionage situation? Do they have Alphabet? Would they need to have teched Alphabet in order to run a spy mission "against" us if we gifted them a spy? I'm thinking that we should groom them to be our religious civic swap insurance policy. If we have to help them tech Alphabet (could pacify them for their lack of gains in the war, perhaps) after we get to rifles, perhaps it's worth a look. Then they run the espionage slider and steal techs from us. I'd encourage them to go toward Nationhood so they can swap us back there if needed.
I have no idea if the costs involved would make any of this viable for WPC.
That is a good idea. We could pay them gold for the EPs they spend on switching our civics and religion.
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(July 23rd, 2013, 16:25)novice Wrote: (July 23rd, 2013, 16:14)Boldly Going Nowhere Wrote: What is WPC's espionage situation? Do they have Alphabet? Would they need to have teched Alphabet in order to run a spy mission "against" us if we gifted them a spy? I'm thinking that we should groom them to be our religious civic swap insurance policy. If we have to help them tech Alphabet (could pacify them for their lack of gains in the war, perhaps) after we get to rifles, perhaps it's worth a look. Then they run the espionage slider and steal techs from us. I'd encourage them to go toward Nationhood so they can swap us back there if needed.
I have no idea if the costs involved would make any of this viable for WPC.
That is a good idea. We could pay them gold for the EPs they spend on switching our civics and religion.
Quoted for emphasis. Awesome idea.
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I'm going to be quite busy today, and the coming days, so won't be able to do anything C&D related (and I'm away from Civ too).
Anyway, according to Civstats Apolyton just performed 7 1-pop whips/drafts and 1 2-pop whip. I think we need to raise our war readiness meter to at least yellow.
I did fill in espionage numbers for the previous turn (via APTmod - use the values Destruir produccion and Robar Tecnologa in the production tracking - the labels in APTmod are wrong, for some reason), but never got to the various whips that were done last turn.
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How much did average rival power go up by? Multiply that by number of rivals, minus pop lost, and we can confirm which if they really just popped out 4 jans. Well, they probably did. I expect the Jans are staying on the rear lines to guard against CivFR as they send their rifles at us.
I suspect that half the reason CPers were down with sending gold to Apolyton was because the terms of deal force Apolyton to attack us with X number of rifles, so to hopefully give CPers an opening to take Brick-by-Brick.
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(July 24th, 2013, 03:48)Nicolae Carpathia Wrote: I suspect that half the reason CPers were down with sending gold to Apolyton was because the terms of deal force Apolyton to attack us with X number of rifles, so to hopefully give CPers an opening to take Brick-by-Brick.
Well it could also be: "Let's not renew our NAPs to deny RB the security. We will provide rifles for both of us to make sure we are safe without NAPs".
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(July 24th, 2013, 04:15)novice Wrote: (July 24th, 2013, 03:48)Nicolae Carpathia Wrote: I suspect that half the reason CPers were down with sending gold to Apolyton was because the terms of deal force Apolyton to attack us with X number of rifles, so to hopefully give CPers an opening to take Brick-by-Brick.
Well it could also be: "Let's not renew our NAPs to deny RB the security. We will provide rifles for both of us to make sure we are safe without NAPs".
Or it could be anywhere in between such as Poly hopes to score <5 cities or something.
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Also according to civstats, CP whipped 6 cities this turn. I think it's 2 2-pop whips and 4 1-pop whips.
Edit: 3 2-pop and 4 1-pop now, if I'm reading civstats correctly (2-3 points = 1 pop, 4-5 points = 2 pop, right?)
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havent been into the C&D sheet in some time - is there critical stuff that needs to be kept up to date while you are away KJN?
I have no time, but could try to squeeze some in.
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One thing that might be useful is the CivFr/CFC War Weariness tracker. Would be nice to see if they are still in a hot war or not lacking a chariot in that area.
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(July 23rd, 2013, 16:14)Boldly Going Nowhere Wrote: What is WPC's espionage situation? Do they have Alphabet? Would they need to have teched Alphabet in order to run a spy mission "against" us if we gifted them a spy? I'm thinking that we should groom them to be our religious civic swap insurance policy. If we have to help them tech Alphabet (could pacify them for their lack of gains in the war, perhaps) after we get to rifles, perhaps it's worth a look. Then they run the espionage slider and steal techs from us. I'd encourage them to go toward Nationhood so they can swap us back there if needed.
I have no idea if the costs involved would make any of this viable for WPC.
well wpc doesnt have code of laws either. w/o courthouses or the espionage slider, its going to be difficult for them to get the EP's to steal any tech.
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