RBP3 IT Office - Email and technical issues

[Jowy]

Here we go again...

Are misclicks/mistypings reason enough to ask for a reload? Not simply mistakes of forgetfulness etc. Not really sure how it happened, I was typing and things all moved weirdly. I think it was a delay while setting a sign, typing was interpreted as game commands?

Personally I'd love to give you a reload, but it's pretty evident from our earlier discussion on this that the majority don't want to reload on missclicks. Sorry!

[Maniac Marshall]

You know Mukha, maybe you have something odd going on. Your connection was causing all sorts of OOS errors earlier (the previous turn I think). They persisted even after you logged out and back in. I know it was your connection because yours was the value that was different from the other 3 or 4 of us logged in at the time,and the message went away when you logged out. I even mentioned this in our spoiler thread. Could be a coincidence, but, maybe there's a larger issue...

[Dantski]

Considering there was a mismove on a scout earlier that got a reload, we are definately unhappy that we didn't get one considering our mishap will have far larger repercussions.

Also would like to reference PB2 where I have not requested a single reload.

[Mukha]

Yeah I noticed those OOS issues as well maniac, I think I'm due for a reinstall it might also speed civ up as it's running like a dog at the moment.

Back to the reload issue, could we get a defined rule for reload requests? It's a bit painful to see a scout misclick getting a reload and we don't in very similar circumstances that causes a city to be delayed by a few turns.

Sorry to do this already, but I misclicked our scout and he went back the way he came. (For those interested, was putting in a sign and somehow got off the sign while typing). I know it's ridiculous (turn 2!!!!) but if we could get that back...

Reloaded.

I recommend the teams try to keep these requests to the minimum. If the other teams start getting bothered by them we may be pushed into asking teams to loose a pause in exchange for a reload.

[SleepingMoogle]

Back to the reload issue, could we get a defined rule for reload requests?

I support this request. While I understand the hassle that a reload imposes on other teams, some mishaps can significantly alter the game balance and in these cases a reload should be an option. Having a 24-hour timer per turn gives every team the time get the most out of their Civ, and I'd hate to see something like a misclick (which is by definition unintended) ruin those plans.

[Cyneheard]

This is why we need a game admin.

One problem is, when a reload is requested, the game is still running, and people log in and play their turns. And it's not like reload requests get resolved in 5 minutes. Can you please pause the game if you're going to request a reload? That way, we realize something's up, and check the IT thread. Yes, this means that a reload request would probably cost you a pause. But it'll allow us to actually deal with issue.

Lag-based misclicks are, IMO, a cause for a reload. That's different from "I forgot to check X on our turn, and it cost us", which is what caused your earlier reload request.

Also, pre-emptively, accidental war declarations should, IMO, always be reloaded if they teleport units on either team. A blanket "always reload accidental wars" policy would be fine with me. Alt-click REALLY should have a screen say "Are you sure?".

[Maniac Marshall]

I'd support a reload for this issue. I'd support you doing a reinstall too, Mukha, as it's possible some issue with your system caused it.

[darrelljs]

Well, we don't have a reload rule, but any rule I'd vote for wouldn't allow a reload for misclicks. I guess that makes me a jerk . A reload for a connection or system issue is fair, but it isn't clear to me that is the case here.

Darrell

[scooter]

I guess that makes me a jerk .

I think this is the problem with requesting reloads, is there is a mixed opinion on the subject. The teams that are okay with it will happily say so, but the teams who are not okay with it remain silent, because you look like the "big mean jerk," and/or you are afraid it may even go so far as to impact relations in-game.

[Swiss Pauli]

I think that a reload should cost one pause.

Clear exception would be an accidental DoW because it negatively impacts another team (but one should pause the game after making such a mistake). Another exception would be an illegal move, but in this case the reload would be at the discretion of the 'victim' of the illegal move.

It may be stating the obvious, but it's not a good idea to make unit moves when someone is entering or leaving the game because of the lag, and it's basic common sense to put signs up only after you've moved/fortfied your units.