The last game finished some time ago, so I was wondering if there is appetite for a return to Erebus? Always wanted to play in one of these...

Obviously I'm very green, so I'll leave settings, bans, mod version etc to the vets/general consensus. I do hope though that we can get at least 5 players on board.

I'll try to pm some veterans later, but if anybody wants to step ahead, be welcome.

I am curious to see what Mr. Gollop has created with this new take on the classic X-com concept. Has anyone given it a shot?

We've discussed the economy aspects of roads already but didn't really do that for the movement effect.
This covers three different things.

1. Arcanus road movement speed.
Moving for 0.5 was way too powerful so it was nerfed to 1 and I don't really think there is another option (other than roads having no effect on movement at all).
2. Myrran road movement speed.
This was changed to 0.5 form 0 which helps but if 0.5 was too powerful on Arcanus, why is it not on Myrror?
So maybe this should be 1 too. Enchant road is no longer a thing and it doesn't really make sense why roads on Myrror need to be faster. Is the 0.5 cost contributing to Myrran gameplay? I guess it helps Dwarves in expansion which would be difficult with their slow movement? Cannons especially.
3. Combat movement speed.
This is the main reason for making this post.
I accepted combat roads being 0.5 so far and justified it with "you get more gold but it's harder to defend your cities". That's true - if you're using ranged units to defend and the enemy uses melee forces - the most common scenario. However it's not true at all otherwise. In fact if the garrison is melee units, roads help THEM defend the city. This is especially relevant for Klackons and Gnolls who can't build ranged units. This might be a good feature as it helps melee garrisons which are otherwise inferior but we've never discussed it and it has quite a big impact on the game so we should.

RtR 4.1.1.7 proposed change log: changes relative to RtR_4.1.1.6

Quote:Civs: Native America: Hunting/Agriculture. UB: Monument replacement: Totem Pole. +3XP to Archery units, +1XP to Gunpowder units. Requires Archery, Obsoletes at Assembly Line. UU: scout replacement. Tracker. Starts with Woodsman 3, can create Totem Pole. Upgrades to Explorer and Musketman

India: Mysticism/Mining. UB: Granary replacement: Harrapan Granary, +1 happy, , cost 45 hammers, no bonus production from trait. UU: Pike replacement. Urukku Pikeman. [Strength 8, +50% against mounted] OR [Strength 7].


Civics: Legal Civics:

Vassalage: Provides free support for military units (only affects Pacifism unit cost). 1 free unit support per 5 population. +10 free units. Requires Feudalism. Low cost. iAnarchyLength = 0 (does not cause anarchy to revolt to this civic).

Bureaucracy: Effect unchanged. No Cost. iAnarchyLength = 0 (does not cause anarchy to revolt to this civic).

Nationhood: Effect unchanged. Medium cost.

Emancipation: +100% Improvement Upgrade Rate Modifier. +1 food, -1 commerce from Town. Requires Constitution. Medium cost.


Labor Civics: Caste System: +1h for workshops. Unlimited Scientist, Artist and Merchant slots. Requires Code of Laws. Low cost.


Buildings: (correction from previous change log) Customshouse: +3XP to naval units, +100% Foreign trade route yield. Requires Economics. Cost 120 hammers.


Units: Galley: Base movement 0. Starts with Navigation 1, Navigation 2.


Misc: Base upgrade cost reduced to 0 gold.

Quote:Ultimately, so long as Bureaucracy only has an effect on a single city, but the costs of the civic are calculated off number of cities and population, then Bureau will always have a cross over point where it is a net drain compared to just sitting in Tribalism. I'm not saying that Tribalism is useful, just stating a mathematical fact.

Quote:Even if Bureaucracy becomes a no cost civic, this does not change that the obvious way to balance Vassalage is to match it in general terms of cost savings: the unit costs saving should be altered to enable more gold saved if the full unit savings are taken advantage of (of course, this requires players build the units in the first place, so it's not an instant saving, but it opens up relevant choice in tech strategies and beelines). Or Vassalage could get another bonus ie reduced city maintenance by 10%. That way CS is not a one right choice.

Another side to this is that CS is not a beeline target in every game. In game position matters, as does other bulb targets. CS blocks the Astro bulb. Sometimes this will be needed, other times it will not matter. But it's a much more complex decision than "Bureaucracy is broken at No cost".

Look, I'm not saying that Bureaucracy wouldn't be damned useful. It'd probably revert to being a solid choice in most circumstances. Vassalage, Nationhood and Emancipation would need to be rebalanced to fit around it, but this should not be difficult to achieve. Should Nationhood and Emancipation be High cost? Probably not. Does Emancipation need to be free to revolt into? Not necessarily. Do we need to drop an extra bonus onto a civic to keep things in range? Potentially.

Hey!  Was watching Seravys playthrough and he mentioned having too many cities without getting penalties and seemed to have a very good idea of how many that was.  I’ve been searching through the CoM documentation on diplomacy as well as the MoM 1.50 wiki on it and can’t find anything.  If you could let me know about this I’d really appreciate it!

Hey folks it's me again.

Couldnt find a lurker thread on the other site so here is ours.

Has anyone tried this new Civ & Colonization inspired game yet? If so is it good?

https://store.steampowered.com/app/11202...ure_Fleet/

I'm thinking about hitting the button on it as it's currently on sale thanks to the steam autumn sales however there's next to no reviews on it. A presumably one man show making a game as complicated as Colonization is no easy task (eg the FreeCol project has been going for 20yrs haha) so it could be not so great lol. It sure as hell looks pretty cool though! The Col addict in me is super tempted to try it asap haha! I love the retro 90s Col & Civ2 feel in his pics..

.

I spent 3 weeks in Germany in 1988ish.

Grand total of what I learned is please, thank you, how to order a beer, and a few profanities.

Now I'm in a German game, playing Frederick of Germany.

Password