How to Not Tech, a Lurkers Guide to Losing Liberalism and Winning. [Lurker Thread]]

[pling]

Realised I never posted the final data/graphs that I was collecting for this PBEM - data collection fizzled out gradually from turn 100 onwards with the final whimper at turn 130.





Note in the graph for number of cities a settler was counted as half a city.

[fluffyflyingpig]

I can't believe Lewwyn hasn't pillaged Cyneheard's roads yet.

This was pretty funny

[dazedroyalty]

Re Lewwyn's spaceship GA, I seem to recall T-Hawk discussing the GA for parts vs. tech somewhere. I *think* his point was that the GA is wasted on the building because only a few cities will actually get the benefit applied to the spaceship where as the whole civ's benefits towards the techs needed. but i could be remembering wrong.

[Krill]

Actually at this part of the game you need to consider if you can consistently 1 turn all of the techs.

[novice]

Re Lewwyn's spaceship GA, I seem to recall T-Hawk discussing the GA for parts vs. tech somewhere. I *think* his point was that the GA is wasted on the building because only a few cities will actually get the benefit applied to the spaceship where as the whole civ's benefits towards the techs needed. but i could be remembering wrong.

Time the GA so you can just finish off the required techs. You'll be able to build most of the ship in that GA too.

[T-hawk]

Actually I think a Golden Age is best timed to build the *last* part, I think that's where it accelerates by the most turns. The long pole to the spaceship (except for OCC) is always research and then the last part; you can complete all the other parts while finishing the research and concurrently with the latest part. SS part construction benefits more than SS research since the Golden Age hammer bonus is a greater percentage than the GA commerce boost; +1 hammer to a 3H mine or forest is proportionately more than +1 commerce to a 7C town. So you should start the GA 6 or 8 or 10 or whatever turns before the last part will complete.

That of course is just a general guideline, plenty of micromanagement specifics can alter that. The point about empire-wide research benefit vs single-city construction benefit is also true. If you can already build the last part in one turn (usually with chops), then start the GA sooner, probably ASAP.

[SevenSpirits]

Spending a turn's worth of commerce to get ironworks 8 turns sooner? I don't know what to say. Unless he had to start building the final spaceship part next turn, I mean, he is going to be building wealth in some cities that could build another part instead, right? But who cares I guess, it's a 1t delay of his victory.

[fluffyflyingpig]

Spending a turn's worth of commerce to get ironworks 8 turns sooner? I don't know what to say. Unless he had to start building the final spaceship part next turn, I mean, he is going to be building wealth in some cities that could build another part instead, right? But who cares I guess, it's a 1t delay of his victory.

How to not tech indeed!

[Krill]

http://realmsbeyond.net/forums/showpost....tcount=252

Launch currently T221


Mostly I haven't maximized hammers in the cities because the last 10 turns I've been pretty lazy about worker micro. If I was really racing I would have gone round and workshopped all the towns and in fact I probably should do that in Sphinx. I do have workers moving towards sphinx as of last turn, I may be able to shave a turn off the Engine build time. All the other SS parts will be done 2 turns before it so if I do that'd be a win.

http://realmsbeyond.net/forums/showpost....stcount=61

So T222 I launch with one engine, arriving T234.

[scooter]

Lewwyn will still win the race though because he's building all the parts right? Cyneheard is sure making it close though