[NO PLAYERS] Lurker Thread for lurkers lurking loudly

[spacetyrantxenu]

I've been refining the water resources a bit for the last little while. I've read the list that you made about luxuries, Catwalk. I'm not sure how much more work I want to do on this map, to be honest. I think there's enough land on this map that if they have to settle a few junk cities to grab resources it will be OK.

New data:

Total map unfairness (standard deviation in weighted land quality): 1

Player 0
Gandhi of India
198 land tiles.
(106 grass, 71 plains, 8 deserts, 13 tundra, 0 snow. 62 forests, 16 jungles, 1 flood plains, 0 oasis. 59 hills.)
2002.0 total land quality.
10.11 average land quality.
368.0 total food potential.
1.86 food per non-ocean tile.
282.0 total hammer potential.
1.42 hammers per non-ocean tile.
197.0 total commerce potential.
0 coastal tiles.
0 ocean tiles.

14 strategic resources (2 iron, 2 uranium, 2 horse, 2 copper, 2 aluminum, 2 oil, 2 coal).
13 happy resources (2 incense, 4 sugar, 3 wine, 2 gems, 2 gold).
23 food resources (1 rice, 4 deer, 4 sugar, 2 cow, 3 wheat, 3 corn, 2 sheep, 2 banana, 2 pig).
26 health resources (1 rice, 4 deer, 4 sugar, 2 cow, 3 wheat, 3 corn, 3 wine, 2 sheep, 2 banana, 2 pig).

Player 1
Mansa_musa of Mali
202 land tiles.
(88 grass, 68 plains, 9 deserts, 34 tundra, 3 snow. 64 forests, 8 jungles, 5 flood plains, 2 oasis. 52 hills.)
2001.5 total land quality.
9.91 average land quality.
384.0 total food potential.
1.90 food per non-ocean tile.
262.0 total hammer potential.
1.30 hammers per non-ocean tile.
180.5 total commerce potential.
0 coastal tiles.
0 ocean tiles.

18 strategic resources (4 horse, 3 copper, 2 aluminum, 2 coal, 2 uranium, 2 oil, 3 iron).
10 happy resources (2 silk, 2 gems, 2 silver, 2 wine, 2 dye).
22 food resources (3 cow, 3 rice, 2 corn, 3 pig, 4 deer, 4 sheep, 2 wheat, 1 banana).
24 health resources (3 cow, 3 rice, 2 corn, 3 pig, 4 deer, 4 sheep, 2 wine, 2 wheat, 1 banana).

Player 2
Ragnar of Viking
200 land tiles.
(90 grass, 81 plains, 9 deserts, 17 tundra, 3 snow. 66 forests, 0 jungles, 5 flood plains, 0 oasis. 55 hills.)
2001.0 total land quality.
10.01 average land quality.
357.0 total food potential.
1.79 food per non-ocean tile.
291.0 total hammer potential.
1.46 hammers per non-ocean tile.
212.0 total commerce potential.
0 coastal tiles.
0 ocean tiles.

18 strategic resources (3 aluminum, 2 oil, 2 coal, 2 iron, 2 horse, 3 copper, 2 ivory, 2 uranium).
10 happy resources (2 silver, 2 wine, 2 fur, 2 ivory, 2 incense).
20 food resources (4 deer, 4 cow, 3 corn, 2 rice, 2 pig, 3 wheat, 2 sheep).
22 health resources (4 deer, 4 cow, 3 corn, 2 rice, 2 wine, 2 pig, 3 wheat, 2 sheep).

Player 3
Sitting_bull of Native_america
200 land tiles.
(110 grass, 74 plains, 5 deserts, 8 tundra, 3 snow. 51 forests, 17 jungles, 0 flood plains, 0 oasis. 54 hills.)
2001.5 total land quality.
10.01 average land quality.
358.0 total food potential.
1.79 food per non-ocean tile.
283.0 total hammer potential.
1.42 hammers per non-ocean tile.
220.5 total commerce potential.
0 coastal tiles.
0 ocean tiles.

18 strategic resources (2 aluminum, 3 ivory, 2 coal, 2 horse, 2 uranium, 3 copper, 2 oil, 2 iron).
13 happy resources (3 ivory, 2 silk, 2 wine, 2 sugar, 4 dye).
21 food resources (4 deer, 2 corn, 2 sheep, 2 pig, 4 cow, 2 sugar, 2 wheat, 2 rice, 1 banana).
23 health resources (4 deer, 2 corn, 2 sheep, 2 pig, 4 cow, 2 wine, 2 sugar, 2 wheat, 2 rice, 1 banana).

Player 4
Gilgamesh of Sumeria
200 land tiles.
(106 grass, 69 plains, 6 deserts, 16 tundra, 3 snow. 68 forests, 12 jungles, 4 flood plains, 0 oasis. 50 hills.)
2001.0 total land quality.
10.01 average land quality.
375.0 total food potential.
1.88 food per non-ocean tile.
269.0 total hammer potential.
1.35 hammers per non-ocean tile.
206.0 total commerce potential.
0 coastal tiles.
0 ocean tiles.

22 strategic resources (3 ivory, 4 copper, 3 oil, 2 horse, 3 aluminum, 2 iron, 3 coal, 2 uranium).
12 happy resources (3 ivory, 2 fur, 2 sugar, 3 silk, 2 wine).
20 food resources (3 rice, 4 deer, 2 banana, 2 sugar, 2 pig, 2 sheep, 2 wheat, 3 cow).
22 health resources (3 rice, 4 deer, 2 banana, 2 sugar, 2 pig, 2 sheep, 2 wine, 2 wheat, 3 cow).

Player 5
Montezuma of Aztec
202 land tiles.
(134 grass, 66 plains, 2 deserts, 0 tundra, 0 snow. 45 forests, 37 jungles, 0 flood plains, 0 oasis. 52 hills.)
2002.0 total land quality.
9.91 average land quality.
388.0 total food potential.
1.92 food per non-ocean tile.
279.0 total hammer potential.
1.38 hammers per non-ocean tile.
234.0 total commerce potential.
0 coastal tiles.
0 ocean tiles.

18 strategic resources (3 ivory, 2 uranium, 2 oil, 3 iron, 2 coal, 2 copper, 2 aluminum, 2 horse).
13 happy resources (3 ivory, 4 dye, 2 fur, 2 gems, 2 wine).
20 food resources (4 rice, 5 cow, 2 banana, 2 wheat, 2 corn, 2 pig, 1 sheep, 2 deer).
22 health resources (4 rice, 5 cow, 2 banana, 2 wheat, 2 corn, 2 pig, 1 sheep, 2 wine, 2 deer).

Player 6
Willem_van_oranje of Netherlands
200 land tiles.
(86 grass, 83 plains, 2 deserts, 21 tundra, 8 snow. 58 forests, 0 jungles, 1 flood plains, 0 oasis. 51 hills.)
2000.5 total land quality.
10.00 average land quality.
359.0 total food potential.
1.80 food per non-ocean tile.
266.0 total hammer potential.
1.33 hammers per non-ocean tile.
209.5 total commerce potential.
0 coastal tiles.
0 ocean tiles.

16 strategic resources (2 oil, 4 iron, 2 copper, 2 uranium, 2 horse, 2 coal, 2 aluminum).
10 happy resources (2 silver, 2 fur, 2 incense, 2 wine, 2 gold).
19 food resources (3 sheep, 4 wheat, 4 pig, 1 corn, 2 cow, 4 deer, 1 rice).
21 health resources (3 sheep, 4 wheat, 4 pig, 1 corn, 2 cow, 4 deer, 2 wine, 1 rice).

Total map unfairness (standard deviation in weighted land quality): 40

Player 0
Gandhi of India
222 land tiles.
(106 grass, 71 plains, 8 deserts, 16 tundra, 21 snow. 72 forests, 16 jungles, 1 flood plains, 0 oasis. 63 hills.)
2623.0 total land quality.
7.27 average land quality.
627.0 total food potential.
1.74 food per non-ocean tile.
286.0 total hammer potential.
0.79 hammers per non-ocean tile.
478.0 total commerce potential.
139 coastal tiles.
3 ocean tiles.

19 strategic resources (2 iron, 3 uranium, 2 horse, 2 copper, 2 aluminum, 4 oil, 4 coal).
14 happy resources (2 incense, 4 sugar, 3 wine, 1 fur, 2 gems, 2 gold).
33 food resources (7 deer, 3 clam, 1 rice, 4 sugar, 2 cow, 3 wheat, 3 corn, 2 sheep, 2 banana, 2 pig, 3 fish, 1 crab).
36 health resources (7 deer, 3 clam, 1 rice, 4 sugar, 2 cow, 3 wheat, 3 corn, 3 wine, 2 sheep, 2 banana, 2 pig, 3 fish, 1 crab).

Player 1
Mansa_musa of Mali
209 land tiles.
(91 grass, 70 plains, 9 deserts, 34 tundra, 5 snow. 66 forests, 8 jungles, 5 flood plains, 2 oasis. 54 hills.)
2636.5 total land quality.
7.64 average land quality.
642.0 total food potential.
1.86 food per non-ocean tile.
272.0 total hammer potential.
0.79 hammers per non-ocean tile.
462.5 total commerce potential.
136 coastal tiles.
5 ocean tiles.

20 strategic resources (4 horse, 4 copper, 2 aluminum, 4 iron, 2 coal, 2 uranium, 2 oil).
10 happy resources (2 silk, 2 gems, 2 silver, 2 wine, 2 dye).
30 food resources (3 cow, 3 rice, 3 fish, 2 corn, 4 pig, 2 crab, 4 deer, 4 sheep, 2 clam, 2 wheat, 1 banana).
32 health resources (3 cow, 3 rice, 3 fish, 2 corn, 4 pig, 2 crab, 4 deer, 4 sheep, 2 wine, 2 clam, 2 wheat, 1 banana).

Player 2
Ragnar of Viking
218 land tiles.
(90 grass, 81 plains, 9 deserts, 19 tundra, 19 snow. 74 forests, 0 jungles, 5 flood plains, 0 oasis. 60 hills.)
2600.0 total land quality.
8.13 average land quality.
559.5 total food potential.
1.75 food per non-ocean tile.
292.0 total hammer potential.
0.91 hammers per non-ocean tile.
422.0 total commerce potential.
102 coastal tiles.
0 ocean tiles.

21 strategic resources (3 aluminum, 4 oil, 2 coal, 2 iron, 3 uranium, 2 horse, 3 copper, 2 ivory).
14 happy resources (3 silver, 2 wine, 4 fur, 2 ivory, 2 incense, 1 whale).
32 food resources (5 crab, 4 deer, 4 cow, 3 corn, 2 rice, 2 clam, 4 fish, 2 pig, 3 wheat, 2 sheep, 1 whale).
33 health resources (5 crab, 4 deer, 4 cow, 3 corn, 2 rice, 2 clam, 4 fish, 2 wine, 2 pig, 3 wheat, 2 sheep).

Player 3
Sitting_bull of Native_america
220 land tiles.
(111 grass, 75 plains, 5 deserts, 21 tundra, 8 snow. 57 forests, 17 jungles, 0 flood plains, 0 oasis. 59 hills.)
2632.5 total land quality.
7.54 average land quality.
619.0 total food potential.
1.77 food per non-ocean tile.
297.0 total hammer potential.
0.85 hammers per non-ocean tile.
504.5 total commerce potential.
129 coastal tiles.
8 ocean tiles.

20 strategic resources (3 aluminum, 3 ivory, 2 coal, 2 horse, 2 uranium, 3 copper, 3 oil, 2 iron).
16 happy resources (3 ivory, 2 silk, 2 wine, 2 sugar, 4 dye, 1 silver, 2 whale).
33 food resources (3 clam, 6 deer, 2 corn, 4 sheep, 2 pig, 4 cow, 2 sugar, 1 crab, 2 wheat, 2 fish, 2 rice, 2 whale, 1 banana).
33 health resources (3 clam, 6 deer, 2 corn, 4 sheep, 2 pig, 4 cow, 2 wine, 2 sugar, 1 crab, 2 wheat, 2 fish, 2 rice, 1 banana).

Player 4
Gilgamesh of Sumeria
227 land tiles.
(106 grass, 70 plains, 6 deserts, 16 tundra, 29 snow. 85 forests, 12 jungles, 4 flood plains, 0 oasis. 58 hills.)
2617.0 total land quality.
7.74 average land quality.
599.0 total food potential.
1.77 food per non-ocean tile.
274.0 total hammer potential.
0.81 hammers per non-ocean tile.
437.0 total commerce potential.
111 coastal tiles.
7 ocean tiles.

27 strategic resources (3 ivory, 5 copper, 4 oil, 2 horse, 4 aluminum, 3 iron, 3 coal, 3 uranium).
15 happy resources (3 ivory, 4 fur, 2 sugar, 3 silk, 2 wine, 1 whale).
32 food resources (4 fish, 3 rice, 3 clam, 4 deer, 2 banana, 2 sugar, 2 pig, 2 sheep, 2 wheat, 3 cow, 1 whale, 4 crab).
33 health resources (4 fish, 3 rice, 3 clam, 4 deer, 2 banana, 2 sugar, 2 pig, 2 sheep, 2 wine, 2 wheat, 3 cow, 4 crab).

Player 5
Montezuma of Aztec
205 land tiles.
(136 grass, 67 plains, 2 deserts, 0 tundra, 0 snow. 47 forests, 37 jungles, 0 flood plains, 0 oasis. 54 hills.)
2601.0 total land quality.
8.79 average land quality.
575.0 total food potential.
1.94 food per non-ocean tile.
290.0 total hammer potential.
0.98 hammers per non-ocean tile.
416.0 total commerce potential.
91 coastal tiles.
0 ocean tiles.

19 strategic resources (3 ivory, 2 uranium, 2 oil, 4 iron, 2 coal, 2 copper, 2 aluminum, 2 horse).
13 happy resources (3 ivory, 4 dye, 2 fur, 2 gems, 2 wine).
32 food resources (4 crab, 4 rice, 4 clam, 5 cow, 2 banana, 2 wheat, 4 fish, 2 corn, 2 pig, 1 sheep, 2 deer).
34 health resources (4 crab, 4 rice, 4 clam, 5 cow, 2 banana, 2 wheat, 4 fish, 2 corn, 2 pig, 1 sheep, 2 wine, 2 deer).

Player 6
Willem_van_oranje of Netherlands
211 land tiles.
(86 grass, 83 plains, 2 deserts, 30 tundra, 10 snow. 62 forests, 0 jungles, 1 flood plains, 0 oasis. 55 hills.)
2596.5 total land quality.
8.43 average land quality.
560.5 total food potential.
1.82 food per non-ocean tile.
275.0 total hammer potential.
0.89 hammers per non-ocean tile.
418.5 total commerce potential.
97 coastal tiles.
1 ocean tiles.

17 strategic resources (2 oil, 4 iron, 2 copper, 3 uranium, 2 horse, 2 coal, 2 aluminum).
12 happy resources (3 silver, 3 fur, 2 incense, 2 wine, 2 gold).
32 food resources (3 sheep, 4 wheat, 4 pig, 4 crab, 1 corn, 4 fish, 2 cow, 6 deer, 3 clam, 1 rice).
34 health resources (3 sheep, 4 wheat, 4 pig, 4 crab, 1 corn, 4 fish, 2 cow, 6 deer, 3 clam, 2 wine, 1 rice).

I hope this is sufficient, I'm really ready to move on to a new project.

[spacetyrantxenu]

I forgot to post a link to the version of the map that generated the data from the previous post.

PB19_7.0.140-RC.CivBeyondSwordWBSave

[Catwalk]

The luxuries would take very little time to fix, such as unjungling a few of them. I think all players should have one convenient early luxury available. Most do, some do not. If you want to give some players disadvantages interesting challenges, make sure they're balanced with other factors.

[Mardoc]

I've looked it over, don't see much to suggest.

- Four whales on the whole map seems a little light, maybe sprinkle in a couple more of those? Same with four incense. Although on second thought, looking at your novice-tool outputs, everyone does have both ~5 luxuries and a couple for trade, so maybe that's not an issue.

- I would remove the jungles from next to at least one of the Aztec coppers, just to ensure they can have metal before Iron Working even if unlucky.

But strategics looks good, and land forms are interesting, and generally I think this is an excellent map.

[spacetyrantxenu]

I'll take another look at it tomorrow and consider the whales, copper, and Catwalk's last round of suggestions. Yeah, I intend the players to trade resources around if they want more, they all have plenty of duplicates for that purpose. Thanks to everyone for taking time to review the map.

[Mardoc]

For posterity's sake.

There were three ties to be broken, all in the first round. I took higher in the list as winner of the tiebreak, so Thoth, Gaspar, and Pindicator won. After that it was strictly deterministic, given their lists. Oxy got his fifth pick, everyone else got 1st or 2nd.

There were 6 items in your list. Here they are in random order:

Thoth 1) Hatty of Zulu
TBS 1. Joao(Exp/Imp) of Zulu
Gaspar 1. Zara of Ottomans
Pindicator 1. Washington of Carthage
Dtay Zara of Holy Roman Empire
Oxy 1) Washington of Mongolia

[spacetyrantxenu]

Thanks for resolving, Mardoc.

Map changes:

I fixed a river drawing error in one of TBS's northern islands.

I removed an extra silver from one of Oxy's islands -- this would have given him one more happy resource type than anyone else had.

Mardoc: I added a whales resource to the four civs that were missing them. Go forth and build navy, y'all.

Catwalk: Gaspar's gold is close enough to prioritize settling it if he values more happy early on.

I Moved Dtay's ivory one tile north so he'll have to settle a second city to grab it. He'll have to settle an additional city in the south to get furs.

I played out TBS's start a bit a few nights ago, the early silver was a big early boost that other players don't have available as early so I moved it further away. I swapped the silver tundra hill with a fur forested tundra tile (moved the silver tile to where the fur was previously a bit to the east). He'll still be able to grab the silver in probably his 3rd to 5th city.

I moved jungle from tiles adjacent to pindicator's copper/horse and ivory, put it elsewhere on different grass tiles. So he'll have the ivory available as an early happy and won't have jungle on his closest horse/copper.

I moved a jungle tile from Oxy's nearest ivory/horse tiles.

Commodore has two silvers in second ring cities around the capital. He can trade for another resource if he wants a early second resource.

I think this is close enough for my tastes. The land based fairness assessment didn't change, nor did the land tile counts. I just move jungles around and the one resource in TBS's lands. The water count changed a bit with the silver removal from Oxy's land and the addition of a few whales resources:

Total map unfairness (standard deviation in weighted land quality): 36

Player 0
Zara of Ottomans (Gaspar)
222 land tiles.
(106 grass, 71 plains, 8 deserts, 16 tundra, 21 snow. 72 forests, 16 jungles, 1 flood plains, 0 oasis. 63 hills.)
2642.0 total land quality.
7.32 average land quality.
628.0 total food potential.
1.74 food per non-ocean tile.
287.0 total hammer potential.
0.80 hammers per non-ocean tile.
480.0 total commerce potential.
139 coastal tiles.
3 ocean tiles.

19 strategic resources (2 iron, 3 uranium, 2 horse, 2 copper, 2 aluminum, 4 oil, 4 coal).
15 happy resources (2 incense, 4 sugar, 3 wine, 1 whale, 1 fur, 2 gems, 2 gold).
34 food resources (7 deer, 3 clam, 1 rice, 4 sugar, 2 cow, 3 wheat, 3 corn, 1 whale, 2 sheep, 2 banana, 2 pig, 3 fish, 1 crab).
36 health resources (7 deer, 3 clam, 1 rice, 4 sugar, 2 cow, 3 wheat, 3 corn, 3 wine, 2 sheep, 2 banana, 2 pig, 3 fish, 1 crab).

Player 1
Ramesses of Rome (Commodore)
209 land tiles.
(91 grass, 70 plains, 9 deserts, 34 tundra, 5 snow. 66 forests, 8 jungles, 5 flood plains, 2 oasis. 54 hills.)
2655.5 total land quality.
7.70 average land quality.
643.0 total food potential.
1.86 food per non-ocean tile.
273.0 total hammer potential.
0.79 hammers per non-ocean tile.
464.5 total commerce potential.
136 coastal tiles.
5 ocean tiles.

20 strategic resources (4 horse, 4 copper, 2 aluminum, 4 iron, 2 coal, 2 uranium, 2 oil).
11 happy resources (2 silk, 2 gems, 2 silver, 2 wine, 1 whale, 2 dye).
31 food resources (3 cow, 3 rice, 3 fish, 2 corn, 4 pig, 2 crab, 4 deer, 4 sheep, 1 whale, 2 clam, 2 wheat, 1 banana).
32 health resources (3 cow, 3 rice, 3 fish, 2 corn, 4 pig, 2 crab, 4 deer, 4 sheep, 2 wine, 2 clam, 2 wheat, 1 banana).

Player 2
Hatty of Zulu (Thoth)
218 land tiles.
(90 grass, 81 plains, 9 deserts, 19 tundra, 19 snow. 74 forests, 0 jungles, 5 flood plains, 0 oasis. 60 hills.)
2619.0 total land quality.
8.18 average land quality.
560.5 total food potential.
1.75 food per non-ocean tile.
293.0 total hammer potential.
0.92 hammers per non-ocean tile.
424.0 total commerce potential.
102 coastal tiles.
0 ocean tiles.

21 strategic resources (3 aluminum, 4 oil, 2 coal, 2 iron, 3 uranium, 2 horse, 3 copper, 2 ivory).
15 happy resources (3 silver, 2 wine, 4 fur, 2 ivory, 2 whale, 2 incense).
33 food resources (5 crab, 4 deer, 4 cow, 3 corn, 2 rice, 2 clam, 4 fish, 2 pig, 3 wheat, 2 sheep, 2 whale).
33 health resources (5 crab, 4 deer, 4 cow, 3 corn, 2 rice, 2 clam, 4 fish, 2 wine, 2 pig, 3 wheat, 2 sheep).

Player 3
Pericles of Maya (Oxyphenbutazone)
220 land tiles.
(111 grass, 75 plains, 5 deserts, 21 tundra, 8 snow. 57 forests, 17 jungles, 0 flood plains, 0 oasis. 59 hills.)
2632.5 total land quality.
7.54 average land quality.
619.0 total food potential.
1.77 food per non-ocean tile.
297.0 total hammer potential.
0.85 hammers per non-ocean tile.
504.5 total commerce potential.
129 coastal tiles.
8 ocean tiles.

20 strategic resources (3 aluminum, 3 ivory, 2 coal, 2 horse, 2 uranium, 3 copper, 3 oil, 2 iron).
15 happy resources (3 ivory, 2 silk, 2 wine, 2 sugar, 4 dye, 2 whale).
33 food resources (3 clam, 6 deer, 2 corn, 4 sheep, 2 pig, 4 cow, 2 sugar, 1 crab, 2 wheat, 2 fish, 2 rice, 2 whale, 1 banana).
33 health resources (3 clam, 6 deer, 2 corn, 4 sheep, 2 pig, 4 cow, 2 wine, 2 sugar, 1 crab, 2 wheat, 2 fish, 2 rice, 1 banana).

Player 4
Roosevelt of Mali (Dtay)
227 land tiles.
(106 grass, 70 plains, 6 deserts, 16 tundra, 29 snow. 85 forests, 12 jungles, 4 flood plains, 0 oasis. 58 hills.)
2617.0 total land quality.
7.74 average land quality.
599.0 total food potential.
1.77 food per non-ocean tile.
274.0 total hammer potential.
0.81 hammers per non-ocean tile.
437.0 total commerce potential.
111 coastal tiles.
7 ocean tiles.

27 strategic resources (3 ivory, 5 copper, 4 oil, 2 horse, 4 aluminum, 3 iron, 3 coal, 3 uranium).
15 happy resources (3 ivory, 4 fur, 2 sugar, 3 silk, 2 wine, 1 whale).
32 food resources (4 fish, 3 rice, 3 clam, 4 deer, 2 banana, 2 sugar, 2 pig, 2 sheep, 2 wheat, 3 cow, 1 whale, 4 crab).
33 health resources (4 fish, 3 rice, 3 clam, 4 deer, 2 banana, 2 sugar, 2 pig, 2 sheep, 2 wine, 2 wheat, 3 cow, 4 crab).

Player 5
Washington of Carthage (Pindicator)
205 land tiles.
(136 grass, 67 plains, 2 deserts, 0 tundra, 0 snow. 47 forests, 37 jungles, 0 flood plains, 0 oasis. 54 hills.)
2620.0 total land quality.
8.85 average land quality.
576.0 total food potential.
1.95 food per non-ocean tile.
291.0 total hammer potential.
0.98 hammers per non-ocean tile.
418.0 total commerce potential.
91 coastal tiles.
0 ocean tiles.

19 strategic resources (3 ivory, 2 uranium, 2 oil, 4 iron, 2 coal, 2 copper, 2 aluminum, 2 horse).
14 happy resources (3 ivory, 4 dye, 2 fur, 2 gems, 2 wine, 1 whale).
33 food resources (4 crab, 4 rice, 4 clam, 5 cow, 2 banana, 2 wheat, 4 fish, 2 corn, 2 pig, 1 sheep, 2 deer, 1 whale).
34 health resources (4 crab, 4 rice, 4 clam, 5 cow, 2 banana, 2 wheat, 4 fish, 2 corn, 2 pig, 1 sheep, 2 wine, 2 deer).

Player 6
Joao of Mongolia (The Black Sword)
211 land tiles.
(86 grass, 83 plains, 2 deserts, 30 tundra, 10 snow. 62 forests, 0 jungles, 1 flood plains, 0 oasis. 55 hills.)
2618.5 total land quality.
8.50 average land quality.
561.5 total food potential.
1.82 food per non-ocean tile.
276.0 total hammer potential.
0.90 hammers per non-ocean tile.
421.5 total commerce potential.
97 coastal tiles.
1 ocean tiles.

17 strategic resources (2 oil, 4 iron, 2 copper, 3 uranium, 2 horse, 2 coal, 2 aluminum).
13 happy resources (3 silver, 3 fur, 2 incense, 2 wine, 1 whale, 2 gold).
33 food resources (3 sheep, 4 wheat, 4 pig, 4 crab, 1 corn, 4 fish, 2 cow, 6 deer, 3 clam, 1 whale, 1 rice).
34 health resources (3 sheep, 4 wheat, 4 pig, 4 crab, 1 corn, 4 fish, 2 cow, 6 deer, 3 clam, 2 wine, 1 rice).

Editing leaders, civs, and colors if anyone else wants a different color. Commodore asked for red, Lewwyn for Gaspar wants green so far. I'll post the finalized map soon. Who's hosting this thing, Sunrise?

[Krill]

Fuck it I wanted to see joao of Zulu get played. Joao of Mongolia is junk compared to that.

[spacetyrantxenu]

Final map version sent to Sunrise.

PB19_7.0.150-FINAL.CivBeyondSwordWBSave

Yeah, 150 saved revisions to this file. Someone remind me to not agree to make a map next time.

[Krill]

You can make a map for an RB mod game. You just have to make sure people have a decent amount of space and strat resources and the map generator will probably do OK. Hell PB5 only had 1 tile changed, and that was a plains cow to a grass cow.