My favourite was the headline from the Scottish Sun: "FLOPPY JOHNSON CAN'T GET AN ELECTION"...
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Okay, it's now pretty clear that Lib Dem would never compact with labour. So it all hinges if Farage wants Brexit and is smart enough that removing the backstop is good enough to win. If not Remain wins someday because of him being an anchor. If he does then BJ will be able to BS it until Sinn Fein and EU foolishly try to use the Troubles to gain political advantage. I agree that people don't really retrospectivity judge past actions but using the troubles would be a current action.
I'd be more focused on Boris possibly being forced to resign due to the advice he gave the Queen being decided as unlawful. He might be forced out by the Supreme Court.
(September 11th, 2019, 12:41)Krill Wrote: I'd be more focused on Boris possibly being forced to resign due to the advice he gave the Queen being decided as unlawful. He might be forced out by the Supreme Court. There's an easier solution; just make Parliament comeback. Court might go all the way if BJ didn't give Parliament 2 weeks but he did.
Labour is waffling on second referendum before election now. Maybe they realize BJ will realize a deal isn't possible after his ideas gets totally rejected by EU and Republic of Ireland which will precipitate a compact with Brexit Party?
October 17th, 2019, 09:10
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https://ec.europa.eu/commission/publicat...ireland_en
I'd recommend giving it an actual read, instead of relying on what news companies/websites say. For example, the BBC is focused very much on goods between NI and the rest of the UK. But also in there is a provision seemingly keeping the UK in the EU Court of Justice's jurisdiction in some respects. Something which I thought was a red line for the Tories. Quote:Article 12
It's not clear to me what will happen with goods going from the EU into NI. NI is supposed to stay aligned to the EU single market, and UK stuff going to NI will have EU tariffs placed on them by the UK at NI ports (if they stay in NI there's a refund). Will the same be happening to EU goods going into the UK from NI? It sure looks to me like there's a border in the Irish sea.
October 17th, 2019, 10:16
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(October 17th, 2019, 09:58)Krill Wrote: I honestly don't see this passing parliament... Seems unlikely, to say the least. But that triggers the Benn Act, and despite Junker saying there's no need for an extension, he doesn't actually get to decide, and I imagine the EU leaders aren't as optimistic as he is. However, if someone fits an amendment in there to request an extension just long enough to have another referendum, then it might pass. I'm mainly just interested in the substance of the deal to see where Johnson and the EU are willing to compromise, and I'm beginning to wonder if Johnson was willing to compromise to this extent because he knows it wont get past parliament.
I figure a referendum amendment can pass, but I imagine that such an amendment requires parliament be recalled and sit if there is no opportunity to hold it.
I am unsure, though, if it would pass. If the DUP vote it down, would it still be voted for by labour? And there is a case lodged with the Scottish court of session arguing that this deal is unlawful under UK tax law, which might screw things up even more. I think your conclusion is spot on though. Sabotage the deal and force the MPs to vote to revoke to stop No Deal, and then go into a general election for immediate no deal which is completely bizarre and not considered acceptable under EU law. |
