[SPOILERS] By the Rivers of Babylon, FIN has no effect (on krovice)

[novice]

We got a great artist in JD. For the lurkers: getting a GP out of that mediocre city wouldn't have been doable without mercantilism.

Plako took a city from Xenu. BGN is attacking in all directions, he took Liverpool from England and is almost done conquering Caledorn.

Oldharry got a knights quest, what does that do?

[Krill]

Quest15:
Noble Knights
Prereq: GUILDS and HORSEBACK_RIDING
Obsolete: MILITARY_TRADITION or RIFLING or RAILROAD
Active/Weight: 15/200
Aim:
Build default number of players for this world size +1 Knights (8 for standard)
Result:
1.All Knight Units gain the Flanking 1 promotion
2.IF Organized Religion civic AND State Religion: spread your state religion to 5 own cities
3.IF you control the Oracle get a free settled great priest in the Oracle city

Also, we're #1 in GNP...but dtay is making 950 gpt saving gold.

[Krill]

Gunpowder 388/2587
Philosophy 1380
Nationalism 3880

PP 3450
RP 4657
Rifling 7245

Drama 517
Music 1035
MT 5175

Chemistry 4657
Steel 8452
Mil Trad 5175

Compass 690
Optics 1350
Astro 4312

[novice]

Krill, you wanted to look at the turn, right?
In fact, can you do turnplaying until monday? I have a busy weekend coming up.

[Krill]

I...think I can. I can't play tomorrow, but I don't think I will need to, so I can play Saturday and Monday with no concerns. You want to play the turn tonight to make sure the great people work out? On that note, is there any MM I need to be aware of for that issue?

[novice]

I...think I can. I can't play tomorrow, but I don't think I will need to, so I can play Saturday and Monday with no concerns. You want to play the turn tonight to make sure the great people work out? On that note, is there any MM I need to be aware of for that issue?

I can play the turn tonight if we've decided on the macro. Adopt FM, stay in Rep, tech meditation, push culture in PE. Is that it?

[Krill]

Pretty much sounds about right.

[novice]

Turn 154 played, last turn of golden age, and we adopted Free market, which netted us +300gpt and -100bpt compared to mercantilism.

Cuddlefish needs 44 gpp after this turn to finish off its GP. That's three turns at break even food (the food box will be empty), so GA could be started on T158. Hence I vote for working 17 scientists on T155 instead, starving down one size from 17 to 16.

Our cities now max out the #cities maintenance at 6gpt when they reach size 10. Spamming new cities where possible is a no-brainer either way with Free Market, so it's a Mute Point. As is the name of our newest city.

[Krill]

So after a lot of back and forth we concluded that we would squeeze a 300GPP artist out of Just Desserts (while starving it down to size 4), get a mixed odds 400GPP merchant/engineer from Free Reign, and a 500GPP GSci from Cuddlefish on the first turn out of the Golden Age. Then fire another Golden Age and finish GPs in Dire Straights (artist) and Mind Grain (merchant), while also producing a GP in Wail Away, which should by then be powering out National Epic-fueled GPPs. DS and MG will produce 400ish GPP during this golden age.

We could have finished a 600GPP during this golden age, but it wouldn't be compatible with squeezing out the 300GPP person from a mediocre city, since the other cities can't pass 300GPP until after JD has produced its artist.

Dtay is on max sci on Aesthetics this turn, with an amusing GNP of 2700. TBS started a golden age. We got 388 beakers into Gunpowder from an event. I declined to spend gold on a 50% chance of more beakers.

I've looked at the current turn, Krill, but I haven't played it out, just fiddled a bit here and there. The BOS factor was too large for me to do more.

Got a GS from FR. The only two plans I can think of are to suck up the usage of one GA for a GA, or to delay the GS from Cf and instead get the GM@100% from MG eot T159 and then trigger the GA. It's trivial to do the latter and I want GA as a threat against dtay, so I think we should delay for MG. The delay in the GA will not affect the eta to Nationalism much, we make break even 775bpt.

We can get Drama in 1 turn from overflow. I'm taking it because if we are going to push to draft everything into the ground as a threat to dtay, then globe is not a bad investment, even if rifle drafting is nerfed. it costs 517 adjusted but should cut off about 200 from Philo so at that price I want it. Globe goes into MG if we want safety, or DS if you want to go balls out. Both would need workshops pronto. I prefer MG.

[Krill]

Theatre cities, in founding order: DS, RC, JD, GE, MG, TS, PE, [Plano].

Need to chop one forest at GE and work the ivory at JD from next turn, then can start the GT on T161