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RBPB3 - Gandhi of the Egyptians

SW-NW is the next move...

Reason I moved NW was because I knew that either way I was going to be moving onto the forest hill next turn, and NW uncovered more tiles, and maybe would have given me a reason to move north; I have no reason to want to move south, and scout to my capitals near NW.

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Current games (All): RtR: PB83

Ended games (Selection): BTS games: PB1, PB3, PBEM2, PBEM4, PBEM5B, PBEM50. RB mod games: PB5, PB15, PB27, PB37, PB42, PB46, PB71 PB80. FFH games: PBEMVII, PBEMXII. Civ 6:  PBEM22 PBEM23Games ded lurked: PB18
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Game mechanics question for the lurkers: Does anyone know when the barbs start spawning on the different diffficulty levels?
Current games (All): RtR: PB83

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In the Handicap Info, all I can find is this that s relevant to the barbs:

0 free wins
35 unowned tiles per barb unit
350 unowned water tiles per barb unit
100 unowned tiles per barb city
20 turns, iBarbarianCreationTurnsElapsed
25 turns, iBarbCityCreateElapsed
7, iBarbCityCreateProb
0, BarbBonus
3 Barb defenders

AI free techs, Hunting + Archery.

I don't know if they start with Archery, which is what I really want to know.
Current games (All): RtR: PB83

Ended games (Selection): BTS games: PB1, PB3, PBEM2, PBEM4, PBEM5B, PBEM50. RB mod games: PB5, PB15, PB27, PB37, PB42, PB46, PB71 PB80. FFH games: PBEMVII, PBEMXII. Civ 6:  PBEM22 PBEM23Games ded lurked: PB18
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Also, I'm trying to be certain that the barbs don't start with Archery on Emp, but because they research techs at a rate that is dependent on everyone else knowing them, maybe they just research Archery really fast because all of the AI start with Archery, or is it because the code gives it to them for free?

I'm really hoping for the former, the later will make this quite interesting...
Current games (All): RtR: PB83

Ended games (Selection): BTS games: PB1, PB3, PBEM2, PBEM4, PBEM5B, PBEM50. RB mod games: PB5, PB15, PB27, PB37, PB42, PB46, PB71 PB80. FFH games: PBEMVII, PBEMXII. Civ 6:  PBEM22 PBEM23Games ded lurked: PB18
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I think you may be right that the emperor barbs usually "learn" archery from the AI players, but I'm not sure.
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If that is true, then there shouldn't be too much of a worry going "light" on military until I hook up horses and get WC out. OTOH, everyone is going to have to deal with the barbs one way or another, so I suppose it isn't a great loss...
Current games (All): RtR: PB83

Ended games (Selection): BTS games: PB1, PB3, PBEM2, PBEM4, PBEM5B, PBEM50. RB mod games: PB5, PB15, PB27, PB37, PB42, PB46, PB71 PB80. FFH games: PBEMVII, PBEMXII. Civ 6:  PBEM22 PBEM23Games ded lurked: PB18
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This thread contains lot of info concerning barbs:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=324961

In Monarch 1st non-animal barbs emerge on turn 40 (unless they come through event or hut).
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Thanks Plako smile According to that link, the barbs need to research archery, and don't start with it, just what I wanted to hear... smile
Current games (All): RtR: PB83

Ended games (Selection): BTS games: PB1, PB3, PBEM2, PBEM4, PBEM5B, PBEM50. RB mod games: PB5, PB15, PB27, PB37, PB42, PB46, PB71 PB80. FFH games: PBEMVII, PBEMXII. Civ 6:  PBEM22 PBEM23Games ded lurked: PB18
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OK, I ran some numbers, and I couldn't believe them. I had to run a test game before I even started to comprehend how insane this might become.

There are around 4050 land tiles on this map

Out of these, 336 are owned by players, leaving 3716 tiles unowned

For ever 35 tiles, there will be one barb

That means there will be 120ish barbs on this map.

120. One hundred and twenty. One hundred and twenty?

Holy ****.

And from this turn, they are starting to be replaced with warriors. Crap.
Current games (All): RtR: PB83

Ended games (Selection): BTS games: PB1, PB3, PBEM2, PBEM4, PBEM5B, PBEM50. RB mod games: PB5, PB15, PB27, PB37, PB42, PB46, PB71 PB80. FFH games: PBEMVII, PBEMXII. Civ 6:  PBEM22 PBEM23Games ded lurked: PB18
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I think I'm kinda glad I didn't get that worker now...
Current games (All): RtR: PB83

Ended games (Selection): BTS games: PB1, PB3, PBEM2, PBEM4, PBEM5B, PBEM50. RB mod games: PB5, PB15, PB27, PB37, PB42, PB46, PB71 PB80. FFH games: PBEMVII, PBEMXII. Civ 6:  PBEM22 PBEM23Games ded lurked: PB18
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