Lewwyn's Diplo School

[Lewwyn]

Plako hit me up.

plako: Hi
me: hey
plako: Just one question - Are you ready to negotiate gifting Losing to us?
me: hmmmm
4:19 PM plako: that city will be useless to you for a long time
Instead we could sign a peace and possibly give you settler for it
Of course I need my team's approval for everything
4:20 PM Just checking before I finish the turn
4:21 PM me: allow me to bring the deal to my team? A settler might swing it
4:22 PM plako: ok - I'll wait for your response
cya
me: k

So I think it depends on when we get the settler. But I'm not really that into the deal. Thoughts? We should reply soon.

[Lewwyn]

Sent this:

Hey, we would sign peace and gift you the city for 2 settlers and an agreement not to settle further north. Legit offer, not a joke.

[Lewwyn]

Plako slightly counters:

Hi,

I don't have full mandate from my team, but I'll try to counter offer something that I assume they could approve:
* We gift 2 settlers 1st on T75 and 2nd on T100 (Naturally meaning also NAP until T100)
* Border line that neither of us can settle on top of or over is
- desert gold tile north from Losing and following tiles east from it E-SE-E-E-E and following tiles west W-W-W-W-NW-W-W

Regards,
Plako

not sure about their border lines there.

[Lewwyn]

I'm going out to karaoke shortly and I don't expect to get back until late, probably not back on here tonight.

[Krill]

OK, if that's how they really want to play it, then no, I'd rather stick at war for the rest of the game. I'd expect such a retarded offer from a noob, but that's just insulting to our intelligence.

[Gold Ergo Sum]

OK, if that's how they really want to play it, then no, I'd rather stick at war for the rest of the game. I'd expect such a retarded offer from a noob, but that's just insulting to our intelligence.

I say you just quote Krill for the response.

That would leave us horribly squeezed unless we stab Pirates.

[Krill]

I can not think of a way to describe the retardedness of expecting us to give them a city, and wait 25 turns for a settler. They would be at 4 cities and us at 2, and Losing is already growing: the settlers we get would not start to grow for 30 and 55 turns respectively. If we were to give up Losing, the only acceptable offer would be a settler in 5 turns and a settler in 10 turns, and Losing is passed over immediately after the first settler gift.

[Qgqqqqq]

+1 for quoting Krill as answer.

[Lewwyn]

I'm interested to see what they come up with as an offer.

[Krill]

Obvious deal sweetener is that we could give them Losing at size 2 for an additional worker, that size 2 city immediately give them a granary for 1 pop whip, and it keeps the accumulated culture. When the baulk at that point out that if they were to move their axes back we could improve a deer tile for them so it would be rather profitable for them. Note, I'd still say continue with the archer build and chop every forest we can to get the archer out and waste them hammers.