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Sorry, the diplomats you were previously negotiating with have just been sacked.
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July 12th, 2012, 16:11
(This post was last modified: July 13th, 2012, 11:08 by Gold Ergo Sum.)
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Proposed message to The Pirates:
Quote:Team Pirate,
I am sure you will see several different modus operandi for diplo this game. Lord Parkin will likely send you novellas filled with self-congratulatory prattle and not so subtle sycophancy. With 7 & Kyan's team, I would generally suggest keeping a close hand on your wallet, because as they butter you up with hours of chat logs, they will be robbing you blind. Darrell's team, well, I suspect they won't be too bad to work with. But they have novice, which means if you get into any micro contest, you will likely come out on the short hand.
And then there is us. Let's cut the BS. You want to win and we want to win. And no doubt, at some point, those purposes will be contradictory. But I would suggest that our teams should have extremely close diplomatic relations. There is a good chance we are regarded as the two least threatening teams in this game. That lends us a great opportunity to work together, settle aggressively in the other direction, and generally work to put our teams in the most desirable situation late game, at which time we can simply duel it out from positions of strength.
You've seen my other games, and I have worked very closely with Luddite in the past. I can be trusted. I am glad to meet you guys first, because I told our team before this game even started that we should try to work with you guys from the start.
Anyway, we are going to keep diplo as short and direct as possible. Most of us are too lazy for intensive Civ strategy talk, let alone useless diplo nonsense.
--Gold Ergo Sum
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I'm not threatening?
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Krill Wrote:I'm not threatening?
Most people on this board think you lost your mind at some point in the recent past.
I could change it to "least skilled."
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Gold Ergo Sum Wrote:Most people on this board think you lost your mind at some point in the recent past.
I could change it to "least skilled."
Oh, you mean the morally bankrupt individuals that refused to play with new players in the CFCDG think I lost my mind?
Funny that, coming from those suffering from paranoia.
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Krill Wrote:Oh, you mean the morally bankrupt individuals that refused to play with new players in the CFCDG think I lost my mind?
Funny that, coming from those suffering from paranoia.
That's a completely separate debate, and a played out one at that. But it's all good, it works to our advantage. We can always use the "Krill is a figurehead only" to our advantage.
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I think the drafted message looks good. Maybe replace "least threatening" with "least dangerous"?
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Couple things:
Whether Krill is personally threatening or not is immaterial. I highly doubt anyone is rating our overall team anywhere higher than 3rd because the overall roster isn't as imposing as the Trolls or Team Down-the-road not Across-the-street. That we should use to our advantage. I also think the idea that Krill's lost his mind comes way before and has nothing to do with the ISDG.
In terms of the drafted letter, I like the tone though I would try and mute the downplaying of their team in particular. I'd swap the line for the one I italicized here. Otherwise looks solid to me.
Quote:Team Pirate,
I am sure you will see several different modus operandi for diplo this game. Lord Parkin will likely send you novellas filled with self-congratulatory prattle and not so subtle sycophancy. With 7 & Kyan's team, I would generally suggest keeping a close hand on your wallet, because as they butter you up with hours of chat logs, they will be robbing you blind. Darrell's team, well, I suspect they won't be too bad to work with. But they have novice, which means if you get into any micro contest, you will likely come out on the short hand.
And then there is us. Let's cut the BS. You want to win and we want to win. And no doubt, at some point, those purposes will be contradictory. But I would suggest that our teams should have extremely close diplomatic relations. I don't believe either of us are probably fancied by the population at large as likely winners of the game.. That lends us a great opportunity to work together, settle aggressively in the other direction, and generally work to put our teams in the most desirable situation late game, at which time we can simply duel it out from positions of strength.
You've seen my other games, and I have worked very closely with Luddite in the past. I can be trusted. I am glad to meet you guys first, because I told our team before this game even started that we should try to work with you guys from the start.
Anyway, we are going to keep diplo as short and direct as possible. Most of us are too lazy for intensive Civ strategy talk, let alone useless diplo nonsense.
--Gold Ergo Sum
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Agree on the revision from Gaspar, but overall a great draft GES.
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