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[Bobchillingworth]

Man, whatever you may think of Jowy as a neighbor, he's a pretty good general. RB ought to run another teammer PB- there are a fair few players who are solid at one or two particular aspects of the game, but get let down by serious weaknesses elsewhere. Assuming they could actually work together (which is admittedly an awfully generous assumption), a team of Catwalk / Nakor / Jowy could cover for a lot of each other's faults.

[spacetyrantxenu]

While that's probably true Catwalk really should have known better. He's played in enough games that he should have been aware of how devastating that many catapults would be.

[Commodore]

By the way, it looks like Catwalk has used his free GA to draft a bunch of stuff which are getting killed by Jowy. I feel relieved.

Never change, Gav.

[spacetyrantxenu]

So let's circle the wagons...who remains as a viable competitor to the cannon and cuirassier equipped Babylonians? Probably safe to say that pink is about to creep around the board a bit until people are ready to concede. First Slowcheetah and then either BaII or Nakor, though I'd guess Nakor second. If a dogpile doesn't develop soon I think we won't be long until several of these guys are spamming away in a new game setup thread.

[NobleHelium]

I'm sorry, but I fail to see the tactical genius of slamming a bunch of cats and then hitters into a stack.

[spacetyrantxenu]

Maybe it didn't require genius to execute but when Catwalk served the meal Jowy swallowed it whole. Jowy annihilated the stack, what more do you want from him?

[NobleHelium]

Nothing, but it doesn't make him a pretty good general.

[Bobchillingworth]

That's a silly reduction, Noble. Like saying "All Mack did was build a bunch of Knights". It takes genuine skill to compile that sort of stack, ensure you have an appropriate unit composition and position your troops to capitalize on your opponent's mistakes. Granted you don't have to be an absolute Tactical Genius, but Civ combat has never been particularly sophisticated.

[spacetyrantxenu]

It takes skill to balance building up sufficient military power in the right composition without gutting one's economy in the process. Jowy can only claim to have done part of that here. I'm not diminishing his military victory but he has spent his whole game building military. He ought to have had the power to do this, his entire game has been prepping for war. There's a reason he's behind so many rivals, there's no balance between developing power and economy here.

[NobleHelium]

That's a silly reduction, Noble. Like saying "All Mack did was build a bunch of Knights". It takes genuine skill to compile that sort of stack, ensure you have an appropriate unit composition and position your troops to capitalize on your opponent's mistakes. Granted you don't have to be an absolute Tactical Genius, but Civ combat has never been particularly sophisticated.

No, it would be analogous to saying mack slammed his knights into a stack within his territory. That requires no real tactics either. Producing units is not generaling. That's like saying Grant was great for the fact that the Union had way more men and factories than the Confederates.

Good generaling would be using knights to outmaneuver the opponent or to strike where the opponent does not expect. Stuff that mackoti does and Jowy does not.