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plako Wrote:I would have given up long time ago, if I would thought winning is only goal worth pursuing. Your attitude seems pretty common here that seems to lead to players giving up premateurely.
We've not yet commited ourselves so we can switch our side several times before final desicion  .
I admit that lurkers wouldn't find us bashing HRE alongside with India and Mali that intresting. I'll take also this into account when considering our final desicion.
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plako Wrote:I would have given up long time ago, if I would thought winning is only goal worth pursuing. Your attitude seems pretty common here that seems to lead to players giving up premateurely.
We've not yet commited ourselves so we can switch our side several times before final desicion .
I admit that lurkers wouldn't find us bashing HRE alongside with India and Mali that intresting. I'll take also this into account when considering our final desicion. Very good point! The same argument could be said about the attitude of being satisfied with a lower position than victory.. You just give up the game when you still have the tools to win, instead of giving up when you don't (or think you don't).
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plako Wrote:I would have given up long time ago, if I would thought winning is only goal worth pursuing. Your attitude seems pretty common here that seems to lead to players giving up premateurely.
We've not yet commited ourselves so we can switch our side several times before final desicion .
I admit that lurkers wouldn't find us bashing HRE alongside with India and Mali that intresting. I'll take also this into account when considering our final desicion.
Ditto Krill:
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plako Wrote:I would have given up long time ago, if I would thought winning is only goal worth pursuing. Your attitude seems pretty common here that seems to lead to players giving up premateurely.
We've not yet commited ourselves so we can switch our side several times before final desicion .
I admit that lurkers wouldn't find us bashing HRE alongside with India and Mali that intresting. I'll take also this into account when considering our final desicion.
I would have tried to screw over Whosit as much as possible so people would be less likely to rush me in future games. After dealing with Whosit I can not tell you what I would do because that would be a spoiler. 
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Quote:I admit that lurkers wouldn't find us bashing HRE alongside with India and Mali that intresting. I'll take also this into account when considering our final desicion.
In terms of titillating the lurkers, you have already done about as well as anyone in this game. You ran your empire with skill and determination through tough times, and it was fun to watch.
I think you should make your decision based on what you think would be the most fun way for you to play out the late-game turns. Win or no, you've already demonstrated your skill, and showed us lurkers how they can survive an early setback while still managing to maintain competitive economy.
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Jowy Wrote:Very good point! The same argument could be said about the attitude of being satisfied with a lower position than victory.. You just give up the game when you still have the tools to win, instead of giving up when you don't (or think you don't).
I would say staying loyal to the only allies you have had in the game counts quite a lot! And Jowy, sorry to be a bit personal but I think you are one of the last people from this game to talk about giving up 
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Kristian95 Wrote:I would say staying loyal to the only allies you have had in the game counts quite a lot! And Jowy, sorry to be a bit personal but I think you are one of the last people from this game to talk about giving up Sorry to be a bit personal but you're a bitch. Next time use PM's if you *really* have to go to personal attacks.
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Jowy Wrote:Sorry to be a bit personal but you're a bitch. Next time use PM's if you *really* have to go to personal attacks.
 there there, nice language by the way :neenernee
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Jowy Wrote:Very good point! The same argument could be said about the attitude of being satisfied with a lower position than victory.. You just give up the game when you still have the tools to win, instead of giving up when you don't (or think you don't).
Nice thinking, although I'm not sure if we really have a chance at winning this and what really would be our best course of actions. Earlier I considered that we would need a war that is equally damaging to both parties while we could continue building up our nation peacefully. Situation seems to be pretty far from this at the moment. It seems to me HRE is really suffering way more than India from the current war.
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Game over. Lame ending, but I think it was time to end it with all this contoversy and most of the nations unwilling to play it to the end.
Looking back now I think we made some very big mistakes in the beginning. Instead of hoping peace with Rome we should have just realized the threat and settled more secure way and maybe try something before Rome get to Praets.
I also lost focus after winning Whosit and really didn't have much of an idea what to do next. Chances of us winning were extremely low. India juat did get too much and too easy prize out of the wars against Jowy+Kathlete and were in practice unstopable.
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