RBP3 IT Office - Email and technical issues

[Mukha]

You can clearly see that we didn't. I'm just trying to get rules clarifications.

At the moment the rule does seem to allow double moves. As the intent of the rule when written was clearly to prevent them it should be adjusted. Just I have no idea how. Clearly can't have either player forfeiting a turn's moves. Apart from the at your own peril thing, I think the only alternative in future is if both civs have yet to move in the second half of the turn the declarer needs to declare without moving any units then allow the defender to move their units first before going ahead with the attack. Could this be made a part of the rule? Or are there some loopholes in this situation?

Also, where do your spearmen train? Sparta?

[Sandover]

You can clearly see that we didn't. I'm just trying to get rules clarifications.

I don't think it's that clear but consider this an apology.

At the moment the rule does seem to allow double moves. As the intent of the rule when written was clearly to prevent them it should be adjusted. Just I have no idea how. Clearly can't have either player forfeiting a turn's moves. Apart from the at your own peril thing, I think the only alternative in future is if both civs have yet to move in the second half of the turn the declarer needs to declare without moving any units then allow the defender to move their units first before going ahead with the attack. Could this be made a part of the rule? Or are there some loopholes in this situation?

Just want to point out that I would've liked to declare in the first half to avoid complications, but seeing as I played during the last half of the previous turn I figured that would've been against the rules.

Also, where do your spearmen train? Sparta?

Our training grounds in Sandograd and Scooterville are top notch. Fight the SsS and you get the hammer!

We've played our turn btw so you're up whenever you want to.

[sunrise089]

But wait, if you mean at their own peril do you mean that you think we were justified in getting the first half as the rule states and hence being able to double move them at the start of the next turn?

The way I see it, 100% yes.

We've chosen in this game to let the attacker pick their window. This gives them total control of every turn except one - the turn of the DOW itself. So the attacker has two responsibilities to make up for their ability to choose their half of the turn:

1) They must plan one turn in advance if they want to be able to DOW and claim the first half of the turn. Meaning that they must have secretly moved during the first half of the turn preceding the DOW turn. We've covered this issue at length and I think we all understand it now.

2) They must monitor civstats during the turn they plan to DOW if they wish to avoid a defender double move. If the defender has chosen to wait late in the turn the attacker may either choose to move in the first half of the turn, wait until the defender has moved (even if it means moving at the very end of the turn), or go ahead and DOW in the 2nd half and then allow the defender their moves. Since none of this should come as a surprise to the attacker I don't think they have much room to complain about a double move.
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If for whatever reason I were to host additional RBP games before (heck, or after) the release of CiV, and the RBP1, RBP2... naming series was uninterrupted, here's I think what I would go with for RBP5 (RBP4 would be an AW cton as I've discussed with others in the past):

*Attacker may DOW any time during any turn.
*If the attacker wants to DOW during the first half of a turn, they must have moved all units during the first half of the previous turn.
*During the turn of the DOW the defender may move whatever units they want whenever they want (attackers DOW doesn't trump defender's right to move all of their units).
*Defender then chooses the half of the turn they will play in for all successive turns of the war.

[Morgan]

nevermind

[Cyneheard]

Oh, it's T75. Should we be taking demographics and such for posterity?

[regoarrarr]

I miss the old Krill, the one who would needle everyone all the time about being the last to play...

[Krill]

Turn roll over...

[regoarrarr]

When I logged in this evening - England was listed in the score as [AI] - not sure what that was?

[Mukha]

Did they go OOS? They should log in to check the AI didn't do anything strange if that's what has happened.

NM they logged in after you.

[Cyneheard]

I just double-checked; nothing's amiss. We'd made all our moves before that login, and our cities were unaffected.