Mwahahaha.
Time to start planning for the demise of those weak humans.
Time to start planning for the demise of those weak humans.
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Kandros of the Clan - How many powers of 2 do you need?
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Leaders:
Settings I believe that's what you all agreed on - if I've made a mistake, speak now! Do you want the 'up to mapmaker' stuff public, or to find out as you play?[/spoiler] Naming scheme: http://www.seventhsanctum.com/generate.p...oblinnamer MM from t28-45
So, why CoE?
Simplest answer: Darrell once asked me how many powers of two I want, and the answer is: Quote:23:41 Simple answer: I like the idea of half priced settlers, workers, warriors, scouts, archers, axes, shamans and, well, killing people with them. Long answer: OMFG Warrens are uber. Actually, I think I got that the wrong way around... The problem CoE seem to have in the base game is that they are slow in tech. But that's the problem with the leaders, Barb trait, and lack of libs for the late game. I intend to not be using a barb leader, instead I'm plumping for something else. OK, That means I won't have a starting tech, nor a usable world spell, but screw'em, WARRENS! My plan is simple, to get a Warren out asap and to go straight from 1 city to 3 and then 5. I'm hoping to be able to beeline Masonry, something like 275 beakers for Crafting and Masonry. However, that probably won't be possible, and if I have to tech Agri and Calendar, so be it, I can use the extra food to grow faster to the happy cap and build a settler and second worker, and stop them before completing, even if they decay a bit I'll still be making more hammers if I wait for the warren to complete. I love powers of 2. Oh, and on Rantine, fwiw, he does have one use. 26 turns after I build him, I can build the FotT. That's a pretty good bonus, all considered. Probably makes him a little bit better than, say, Govannon, IMO. Krill Wrote:On Rantine, fwiw, he does have one use. Haha. This is gonna be a fun game. Diplomatic aide checking in.
As to the leader, I suppose I should enlighten the dear lurkers
 .Originally I was thinking of something along the lines of Phi for cheap Elder councils, combined with Arc for good Shamans (buildings and civics don't affect the warrened unit, but traits do), and if there is one thing I've learnt it's that getting Mages is damned hard, and they sure do come in useful. I figured that Potency would be rather useful in getting Shamans up to scratch, and Phi would be good to get half price elder councils in all my cities so minimal help is needed to get them productive. Then it got pointed out to me that markets might actually be a bit better, and it's true if you are spamming settlers to an extent, because you'll be losing gold at max slider, so markets are going to be better without multiplier buildings which I'm going to be lacking in simply because of the extra output a market gives compared to an elder council. And Fin is a better trait IMO, especially for a civ that is designed around working as many tiles as possible. So I dropped Phi and added Fin. Fin/Arc, though, doesn't exist, but AGG gives a promotion to all units that I want to build - melee, disciple, arcace, mounted, but especially recon. Wait, recon? Why recon? Because goblins, a CoE unique unit, crappy at 2 strength and only 1 move, can be upgraded to a wolf rider, a cool strength 4, 3 move unit if they simply beat a wolf. Without any other tech needs. And Goblins can get Subdue animal with 5XP and Animal Husbandry researched, but due to AGG, I'd only need 2 XP. 2XP, a tech I might need early on anyway, and a wolf, and thanks to the mapscript there should be some tundra around for early wolf spawns. So it is possible to get a strength 4, subdue animal unit by t30. Hmmm, aren't goblins a bit weak though? Like, they die quite easily. Yes, yes they do. And I start behind the tech pace, down one tech. I'm intending to just push out a few before a worker - it's not like the worker is going to have a lot to do, is it? So, that's my leader sorted. Kandros Fir, but I forgot something. He has a third trait. Ingenuity, and what a useful trait for me that is. Half price upgrades aren't something I'm going to sneeze at, but starting with 50 gold when I'm already 1 tech behind, well, that just means I need to find a way to turn gold into beakers, right. I think I can figure that out somehow. So, there you have it, I got 3 routes to victory. True half price units, fake hunters, and food>gold conversion. Hopefully at least 1 of them works out. Also, I hope for the Sheaims sake they don't start next to me. When I can build a warrior for 8 hammers, pyre zombies must start looking slightly less appealing.
OK, on a standard size map, with emperor difficulty on quick, I'm looking at 259 beakers to get to Masonry.
That's probably a much better option than going worker first, if I get a few flood plains. If I just get food res and forests, growing won't increase my tech pace, and growth isn't going to increase either as population increases. Meh, I suppose it all comes down to what Mardoc gives me. Flood plains and a plains hill plant would probably be the absolute best start I could ever get here. |
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