[SPOILERS - PBEM17] darrelljs - Elizabeth of Egypt

[NobleHelium]

Possible Pitboss 4 Spoiler:

I'd laugh if plako trolled you guys and made every island the same island, only separated by peaks. :neenernee

[Krill]

I wouldn't complain. It'd be a good nerf to the GLH.

[NobleHelium]

Any plans to build it?

[Krill]

For us? I toyed with the idea but we simply don't see the point when the same hammer investment will give us HG and Henge (well, near enough). That and the GLH is the only reason to pick IND IMO, and I think Cyneheard and regoarrarr will think the same way, and they have the faster leader. I expect us to be fast enough to get the HG though as that is tech constrained. I agree with Darrell that Henge is good, I just disagreed at what price we should have gone for it, so the current plan is to get stone hooked then chop it out wherever we want that very same turn. That takes only 3 premaths chops. GLH would take 14.

[Krill]

Because I'm bored:

Henge - Wanted
Oracle - Don't care about turning hammers to beakers with this leader
GLH - Too expensive
GW - No.
Pyramids - Maybe depending on timing.
GL - Meh. Rather not.
HG - Why not.
MoM - Hell yes.
Collosus - Hell yes but unlikely.
Sistene - No
Hagia Sophia - No
AP - No
ND - Maybe.
SoL - Yes
Kremlin - OMFG YES
Cristo - OMFG YES
Taj - Probably?
Sankore - lol no
Versaille - lol no unless Marble then Yes.
SoZ - Probably
Parth - If falling late
ToA - No
SP - Doubtful
AK - Probably
CI - No
ET - No
Pentagon - probably

[darrelljs]

So you think the GE from tHG is better used on MoM than GL? I really doubt that tbh...

Darrell

[Gold Ergo Sum]

When Philosophical, if possible, there are 5 wonders worth prioritizing from my perspective:

1) TGL

2) Mids

3) Mausoleum

4) SoL

5) Parthenon

[darrelljs]

Okay, Worker #2 a.k.a. Guile put one turn into a road on the Ricer per <igor voice>the master's<igor voice> instructions:



Worker #1 a.k.a. Blanka is chopping a forest into a Settler. I've revolted to Slavery, and will 2 pop whip that Settler with the overflow completing the Granary, and then onto a third Worker. Yet another overview map, this time without annoying signs. I'm with rego, those things should have a toggle.



Demos:

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Here are the "early" wonders I want for sure this game, taking into account the Stone.

Stonehenge
Hanging Gardens
The Great Library

Obviously I'd love the Mausoleum of Maussollos and it would be great to find a spot to chop it out. You could aruge its ~66 hammers cheaper than The Great Library (~234 vs. 300) which is ~3 less chops, but I'm just worried we'll lose it.

Mid game I want the Taj Mahal, espeically if we Lib sling Nationalism. Late game I like the thought of Staute of Liberty, Kremlin, Cristo Renditor but that's getting a bit ahead of ourselves.

Darrell

[Krill]

What use are a Billion scientists when we should be able to generate as many beakers as a bulb does, in a single turn? In half a turn, even?

Save the GP and blow them on GA later when in US/FS to put us over the top. We shouldn;t need more than 2 GS, and they should be easy to make without the GL.

[darrelljs]

We'll get those two GS much faster with The Great Library. Faster Academy, faster Eduction = faster half cost Universities and faster half cost Oxford. Better early tech rate means better chance at Liberalism and better tech from Liberalism.

By the time we are in US/FS the game should already be decided .

Darrell