PBEM25 Mapmaking and Lurking

[RefSteel]

Belatedly:

Thanks for the answers and suggestions, Sullla (and Krill) - it looks like in the event, settling on the Wheat would have brought at least a Cow from the third to second ring too (plus at last report there are still two tiles within its range that still haven't been defogged!)

Thanks for the overview too, CMF! I'm curious to see how the game develops from here!

[MJW (ya that one)]

Toku seems to be a bit better than Yongle and CMF only failed due to horrible barb luck. So I would ban both if Yongle goes down.

Didn't matter for this game as they didn't end up on any list.

Edit: I would ban them on Random map (they could get a start where they cannot get attacked) and PBEM 23 pick-own-civ (They would be picked everytime). The best unbanned war leader, Thedora, would also follow this logic. Norway on water maps and Sumer on teamers would also follow this logic too.

Canada would be banned in this PBEM draft rule-set.

[Chevalier Mal Fet]

Yeah, Toku is quite strong. Even with the horrible barb luck I had still caught up to Rome before the final Chinese attack, and I think if left unmolested I would have passed Khmer, eventually, too.

Of course, Yongle would have launched the spaceship by then.

[Krill]

Fitst of all, I don't think having this discussion regarding lessons from PBEM23 in the PBEM25 lurker thread makes any sense.

Secondly, that's a foolish attitude to take. For everything that happened in PBEM23 Khmer faith economy should have won a religious victory. Going to ban Khmer next?

Thirdly, I wouldn't rate that ban list one iota because it ignores the reality of random maps.

[Chevalier Mal Fet]

Good point, Krill. We should keep this thread focused on this game.

Right now I'm thinking Woden will take Hong Kong, since he seems more focused on that objective than the Ottomans, who just have a vague "in the future we'll conquer the city-state." Meanwhile Archduke will attempt to run over greenline, who is unluckily facing his second Legion rush in as many games. With so many barbs spawning around the Romans, too, though, Archduke has a real chance to overwhelm the Dutch no matter what they do with something like 1,200 extra gold advantage.

[Japper007]

Hopefully Greenline being temporarily replaced by a "very spoiled" Japper isn't going to affect our attack. We'll probably need more than a week's worth of turns to accumulate enough iron anyway.

This is exactly what I'm afraid off... it's impossible to play without somehow adressing Arche's impending attack. (either poorly or succesfully, either way it could veer into "ruining the game territory"). I'd say let Whosit, they've only seen Pin's thread, and they aren't in any conflict.

[Cornflakes]

Whosit’s post was a joke, they are a team. Don’t say anything spoiler ish in the tech thread, just something vague like you aren’t comfortable subbing. Or just ignore it and don’t say anything more. It’s just a week.

[Chevalier Mal Fet]

The bad news is it appears that EVERY SINGLE OPPONENT SETTLED TOWARDS US.  We're either very unlucky or in the middle of a pangaea landmass.  I would be rather annoyed with the map selection if it's the latter. .

Bad news, pindi, cos guess WHAT!

I agree you've probably drawn the most challenging start, for which I apologize. But I think if you look over my options this was the best of a mediocre lot. Someone had to draw the middle position unless I could get real clever with the arrangement. Hopefully the multiple nearby city states compensate somewhat, but yeah, you're in a knife fight in phone booth. Gonna have to throw some elbows here.

[El Grillo]

Archduke spent his gold so I don't expect a rush incoming right away.

We are not taking this slow :smile:

My plan is to hit greenline with legions in exactly 17 turns.

[MJW (ya that one)]

Archduke spent his gold so I don't expect a rush incoming right away.

We are not taking this slow :smile:

My plan is to hit greenline with legions in exactly 17 turns.