Sam infantry will only trade with arty on defensive terrain or with promotions, but once stacks starting showing up arty will win and can't be collateral. Chariots will die to anything including warriors unless they are split (which raises interesting tactical considerations).
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[NO 73 PLAYERS] Lurkers Monitoring Variance
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(June 27th, 2023, 12:55)Thoth Wrote: Take Laser as the tech and build Mobile SAM launcher. 220 hammers is as expensive as a wonder but 22 str and 2 movement points should be able to handle artillery. Don't these require oil?
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I write RPG adventures, and blog about it, check it out.  I think this is right. Here is to Luddite picking Joao of Egypt or Sumeria and laughing in everyones faces, trying to slow him down. (June 27th, 2023, 13:47)Thoth Wrote: No, just Laser. Someday Civlopedia will let me down, and on that die I will cry and die instantly. Anyway, it looks like Tarkeel & Co. did a good job with the starts.  . Luddite has an interesting position in the snake pick now because there are exactly as many starts as players, unlike for leaders and civs and even techs.
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Scooter has a very strong opening here with any civ or leader. Mansa works very well saving 1 turn of anarchy for Bureaucracy and another for the swap to slavery in the early game. Add in financial to boost up the base commerce to get multiplied through Bureaucracy and help him power through the early techs.
7 turn worker followed by growth to 2 on the Deer (6 turns if the worker starts with the camp so Hunting needs to be in by eot8). WB takes 7 turns (6 while growing at 4 hpt and 1 working both deer). 15 turns in he's size 2 with 6/24 food, 1 camped deer, 1 netted lake fish, and 2t into the second Deer camp. +9 food per turn means size 3 eot 16. 2nd camp finishes on t17 bring the city up to +12 fpt at size 3. Size 5 eot 21 and an easy 2 pop settler whip on t23. (Non Spiritual leader is 2t slower, Spi/Exp is 1t faster) He needs Hunting by eot8 and fishing by eot7. I don't know what tech costs are on this map but he can certainly tech one or the other if not both so he's got some civ flexibility in terms of starting techs. (I might have had a bit too much caffeine today.....  )
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