[SPOILERS] Lurkers Thread - Well someone has to do it

[Krill]

Yeah, Serdoa missed his chance. Pity, I would have remained his dedicated lurker if I trusted him.

[DaveV]

Well, at least he can build Shrine of the Champion now. Not a bad consolation prize for losing a weak hero (+5 culture, free promotion to units built in city).

[NobleHelium]

Eh, I don't think Serdoa updates his threads enough for anyone to really dedicatedly lurk for him. A dedicated lurker would not even know Loki has been under pressure at all, for example.

Anyway, Loki is pretty much useless at this point, he's been very useful exploring nearly the entire map and getting contact with everyone. The city raze was an unexpected bonus; nobody's going to let him do that again. Keeping him alive would just mean getting +1 happy in a city somewhere, which isn't worth much. Much less than being able to build the Shrine, I'd say.

[NobleHelium]

Amelia seems to have missed the difference between "starts walking" and "enters borders." Or maybe she doesn't care. The Calabim and the Balseraphs will definitely not be coordinated with Amelia, it looks like. They do look like they have a decent number of units available, but the tiger summons look pretty strong at this stage. If they waited a few turns Ilios could be caught out of position attacking that southwest barbarian city, but they don't know he plans to do that.

[Brian Shanahan]

Serdoa's throwing a pretty hefty accusuation in his thread re Ilios' killing of the Adventurer:

So, short update without picture. Ilios wiped out my Hamly Ka (my 84xp warrior). He needed... one unit for it. Yes, one unit to damage my effective str 13.5 unit enough to have it still as stack defender but not with enough life left to kill the next attacker as well.

I told darrell about it and wanted to send this

Gratulations to get as lucky as you did, killing a str 13.5 unit with just one loss. I think I would need several reloads to get the same result, but I guess you just got lucky choosing two times exactly the right unit to attack?

to Ilios but didn't. Ilios, when you read this sometimes and you say "I have not reloaded, just got lucky" I will believe you, but right now I am simply pissed for losing a unit which should have cost you at least 1 or 2 more to kill it. And why you attacked the way you did is still beyond me. If you had lost your second unit (living with 0.4 health now) then my unit wouldn't be available as defender anymore - so what then? Losing 2 units and gaining... nothing? Thats exactly why I believe this to be reloaded.

I think he's getting too much in high-do over this, and while I'd be pretty annoyed myself if it happened, I'm sure that a) Ilios was testing the situation a lot to see what the best way to tackle the stack was and b) the roll of the dice do sometimes fall your way.
If Serdoa keeps in this vein I feel he'll make a massive blunder all due to being annoyed over a bad roll/good testing in the war.

[Twinkletoes89]

Serdoa is prone to over-reactions - he developed a game-long animosity towards me in PBEM7 for doing exactly what he asked me to do.

He is a decent player, but can really be a loose cannon sometimes

[DaveV]

I'm sure part of Serdoa's frustration is due to his admitted earlier mistake of not upgrading the heroic unit from a warrior to a swordsman. An extra point of base strength could have made a considerable difference.

[NobleHelium]

After talking extensively about promoting her units to Mobility, Amelia still hasn't done it. Assuming she started moving out on turn 97 as stated, she would nearly be at Horus's gates by now if she had promoted them. If Ilios can neuter the attack in the north and gain opportunity to swing south to block her swordsmen, she's really dropped the ball there.

[Hesmyrr]

You just know coordinated dogpile isn't going to work well if the player/lurker in both threads suspect each other of malicious treachery . I myself don't believe this war will go anywhere- wonder if the alliance will fell apart after the first offensive has been eliminated?

[Gaspar]

More importantly, a coordinated dogpile needs be actually coordinated to work. This Ilios dogpile is incredibly reminiscent of the Spulla dogpile in PB2. And, no offense to Amelia, but she's never shown me that she's sufficiently invested in these games to be a good option as a partner in one of these things.

I do think the game will come down to Uberfish vs Ilios.