February 25th, 2012, 13:23
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Kyan Wrote:I would ask for a level of patience with him as he will likely read this thread after the game. He is a new player and this is a greens game so if you do see a mistake and want to point it out, by all means do so, but please try to be constructive. I'm very wary on helping him actively during the game and will be as detached as possible to maintain the integrity of this game. If the level of play by the others is beyond that which you can reasonably expect from a greens game (which, I as well as anyone else, know can happen), then I might seek your opinion here of whether I can give a few pointers to ensure his presence in the game is not a distorting factor.
I've always felt that in "Greens" games, lurkers can be much more liberal with helping players because the main point of the game is to help them learn - especially if there's a player who is more "green" than the others.... So I think we can be a bit more helping for this than is generally accepted for more competitive games.
February 25th, 2012, 14:07
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Kyan Wrote:Lizzie is great! I think you are downplaying the strength of philosophical. It's far more than the cheap Oxford. I know it was massively overrated for the longest time but I think it has perhaps gone too far the other way now. I'd still rate it above spiritual personally.
Agreed, I don't think it's that much of an anti-synergy. Philosophical allows you to get a faster academy and Oxford, which dovetails well with cottage spamming. Plus generally, even with a specialist economy, you're not focusing every city on running specialists. You probably just have a national epic city and a few other high food spots running specialists. While you don't get to abuse either trait as much as you would by itself, there's still a ton of value in the combination.
I would personally rate Philosophical 5th though, behind financial, expansive, creative and spiritual. When it comes down to it, I think spiritual just offers a lot more flexibility.
February 25th, 2012, 16:04
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Kyan Wrote:Lizzie is great! I think you are downplaying the strength of philosophical. It's far more than the cheap Oxford. I know it was massively overrated for the longest time but I think it has perhaps gone too far the other way now. I'd still rate it above spiritual personally.
**** no.
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February 25th, 2012, 17:51
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Krill Wrote:**** no.
Maybe I should re-phrase for you mate 
I personally prefer Philosophical and am more comfortable utilising it than I am spiritual. I know I would achieve a higher level of performance by using PHI than I would using SPI. Maybe this is due to me having far more experience with it though. *shrug*
Played one pitboss and one PBEM with Philo already.
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new guy here, but a long-time poster over at civ fanatics.
I like Fin/Philo. I think most civs should, in most cases, have a GP farm or 2.
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I think Azza is about to get killed.....again.
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Only if he has not moved his warrior back AND does not start another one despite an enemy warrior being right at his borders. If he does start one, he will finish it before they can step into the undefended capital (thats why their capitals started on a PH after all, to make sure they could produce a warrior if realized early enough).
Of course, they still might choke him, but that should set him back only a few turns (getting 2 warriors out takes 5 turns and he can start already now + getting his 3rd back should be doable in time too). Tbh I think choking is a pretty bad idea, at least with a warrior. If you are Mali (what noone is) and get an early Skirmisher or two to choke your neighbour, that could very well get you another capital. But one single warrior with nothing to back him up? Thats just making sure that one of your neighbours hates you.
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All these NAPs make me want to vomit
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No kidding. With this map layout we could have had some fun early action but this will undoubtedly turn into a buildfest and whoever plays the best tile and worker micro will run out ahead. At least Sian hasn't NAP'ed anyone yet (has he?). Maybe he'll make something happen.
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Psst, OB doesn't do much if you just had a war.
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