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Realms Beyond Pitboss Planning Thread

I am not playing in this game, but for what it's worth Dreylin/sunrise's snaking system sounds fun and interesting to me. I'm not much on duplicates either - I really don't want to see a bunch of Darius of the Netherlands (or whatever) floating around.

Krill, you and Memphus are kind of newcomers to Realms Beyond, so I'll pass on the knowledge that one of the guiding philosophies behind our community is to "Play the hand that you are dealt." Generally speaking, we tend not to focus so much on metagaming as maximizing whatever resources are on hand, and getting the most out of each start. (Why do you think we performed so well from a lousy start in the Apolyton Demogame?)

No, you may not end up with the exact pairing that you desired, but so what? It's a game! Adapt and survive. Everyone else will have to make tough compromises too. That's part of the fun. smile
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I like to have the original leaders with the civs. In the ongoing RB Epic I get thoroughly confused with the opponents Sullla has picked. Colors, leaders, traits, UUs.
I also prefer non-duplicates for the feeling.

Alternatively we all play the same civ with the same leader. Level playing field for everyone. Or a game with not traits and no UU's and UB's (not sure if this can be done).

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Krill Wrote:In isolation they look like decent leaders, but we don't know about the map; I can think of at least one way Sullla can neuter Financial etc, and that would make 5 of the leaders on your list less useful.
Well Sullla will be coming on in a bit to ask us map-related questions, maybe once he has the map in place he can give us some broad-strokes information about said map that might help guide us away from certain combos.

OTOH, I usually prefer to adapt my strategy to the circumstances (map, leader, etc.) rather than starting with the strategy and tailoring my choices to that end.
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I am also a new comer to the RB community, but I have been following for a while. I would like to put a suggestion along the lines: "play the hand ...". Why not let Sullla pick the leaders for us restricted or not, and trust he'll do a good job. This way it'll feel like a MP adventure/epic. I am sure that even if he will make some mistakes he will put serious thought in his choices, which is likely to make the game fun, if not for everyone, at least for most.

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I'm fine with the snake plan
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Quote:Even if we let everyone pick X leader, if the map lacks food, or production tiles, or water, or strategic resources, or whatever that can neuter everyone right

Isn't Sullla going to balance these? And given a specific plot of land, different leaders/civs are going to be more or less powerful. While we don't know exactly what the land is going to be like, we do know what the basic overview of the land will be like. Some traits are easier to hinder than others (Phi and Fin especially, but ex ante I won't describe how).

EDIT: that's what you get for thinking over a post sometimes...
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Ended games (Selection): BTS games: PB1, PB3, PBEM2, PBEM4, PBEM5B, PBEM50. RB mod games: PB5, PB15, PB27, PB37, PB42, PB46, PB71 PB80. FFH games: PBEMVII, PBEMXII. Civ 6:  PBEM22 PBEM23Games ded lurked: PB18
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Lurker's Comment: Why not just randomly pick a leader for everyone?
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Quote:Krill, you and Memphus are kind of newcomers to Realms Beyond, so I'll pass on the knowledge that one of the guiding philosophies behind our community is to "Play the hand that you are dealt."

? That sounds like: don't quit. Which is a complete non sequitur. I don't even know where this is coming from.


Quote:Generally speaking, we tend not to focus so much on metagaming as maximizing whatever resources are on hand, and getting the most out of each start. (Why do you think we performed so well from a lousy start in the Apolyton Demogame?)

Um, I don't see where metagaming comes into it; sunrise stated that he wanted to metagame more, but I don't think I've done anything (here) that would count as that. I don't even see how this is applicable to leader choices, or the argument between duplicates and no duplicates.


Quote:No, you may not end up with the exact pairing that you desired, but so what? It's a game! Adapt and survive. Everyone else will have to make tough compromises too. That's part of the fun. smile

I agree completely. But I don't see where there is a compromise in picking the leaders, as the list will be completely random. Worst case scenario is that out of the gate one player is already in a hole because of the leader and civ. That would be a pity, to see one person screwed over in such a way.
Current games (All): RtR: PB83

Ended games (Selection): BTS games: PB1, PB3, PBEM2, PBEM4, PBEM5B, PBEM50. RB mod games: PB5, PB15, PB27, PB37, PB42, PB46, PB71 PB80. FFH games: PBEMVII, PBEMXII. Civ 6:  PBEM22 PBEM23Games ded lurked: PB18
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mostly_harmless Wrote:I hope Kodii agrees. smile
Actually, yes, to everything! I was going to give you executive decision over our vote anyways, since I'm currently bogged down by an unexpected university registration problem.
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I don't care as long as I get Agg/Imp Zulu tongue smile ...

Seriously. Snake picking is fine. But I don't really care...this game is for fun, not for rank wink .
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